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Chaz had one test & three GP's just to get comfortable with the bike and tyres, learn and adapt his style from 250 privateer \ AMA supersport to MotoGP. Nicky Hayden took 2 or 3 seasons as a works Honda rider to stop crashing & start getting decent results. Some people are lucky enough to be given the breaks & be nurtured along the way, whilst others have to work their balls off on privateer kit for little or no reward for several seasons before they even get a sniff of a break.

Do you expect Chaz to be running the same race pace as Stoner, Capirossi or Barros? Yes it is basically the same package but they have had almost twelve months of testing, racing and refining the "package" to suit their styles. And if just one small part of the equation is slightly off, then they find themselves way down the order no matter who they are (ask Rossi).

I hoped Chaz would be getting better results but in all honesty what other rider on this planet who has no prior MotoGP experience could do any better under the same circumstances? Good luck for Valencia Chaz.
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MOTOGP » Chaz back to his best

Chaz Davies will return to the scene of his best ever grand prix result, a fifth place as a privateer in the 2004 250cc Valencian GP, in this weekend's MotoGP season finale.

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I laugh when everyone keeps saying Chaz has done well.
Poor qualifying at both previous events, running outside the points, and then retirement (the latter not his fault of course).
Let's see how he does at Valencia but right now he doesn't strike you as a MotoGP rider.
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Chaz had one test & three GP's just to get comfortable with the bike and tyres, learn and adapt his style from 250 privateer \ AMA supersport to MotoGP. Nicky Hayden took 2 or 3 seasons as a works Honda rider to stop crashing & start getting decent results. Some people are lucky enough to be given the breaks & be nurtured along the way, whilst others have to work their balls off on privateer kit for little or no reward for several seasons before they even get a sniff of a break.

Do you expect Chaz to be running the same race pace as Stoner, Capirossi or Barros? Yes it is basically the same package but they have had almost twelve months of testing, racing and refining the "package" to suit their styles. And if just one small part of the equation is slightly off, then they find themselves way down the order no matter who they are (ask Rossi).

I hoped Chaz would be getting better results but in all honesty what other rider on this planet who has no prior MotoGP experience could do any better under the same circumstances? Good luck for Valencia Chaz.
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Thanks DavyJones for your comment - it makes such a refreshing change from the juvenile - "rider a is better than rider b because his bike looks nice in yellow" nonsense that you have to put up with on these comments pages. Any of those guys on those bikes deserve to be there. Us armchair fans can only dream of being them. Let's give them all credit for being at the pinnacle of their sport.

Well done and so true!

Good luck Chaz for Valencia!

Andsom
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I think T-Bone has a point.

When Davies rode the D'antin bike in Laguna he was surprisingly fast, competing the lap times of Barros/ Edwards/ Nakano etc. I think everybody expected him to be a very fast contender.

But not in P.I. and neither in Sepang, he could impress. He sticks at the back of the field. Sure, he has never tested the bike and raced 13 races less than the others, but the same sort of situation happened with West. Antony immediatly went fast and settled in the midgroups. And I'm pretty sure West ain't an natural boy.

Riding/ adapting a RC212V is not so difficult, because of the very smooth character it has. Everybody who steps on is immediatly on the pace!!
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Really Plaggie?

Checa and Nakano seem to struggle on the RC212V, explain that for me please?
Chaz got a lot of credit but it will be over soon, a testing role maybe,
that's all.
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I think T-bone has a point too.
Any rider really has to seize such chances they dont often come along.
Westy did just that and surprised people. So he ended up with a works Kawasaki ride.
Vermeulen a couple of years ago was around the top ten on a Honda ride and so got the Suzuki gig.
It is a lot to expect any rider to come in first time and pull out a result or two but that is what is needed to get the chances.
Chaz has not done enough to prove he has what it takes. Harsh but real world.
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Yes Morgue, I will.

I do think that riding/ adapting is less difficult then ik was on a 500cc/ MotoGP bike. Plenty of reasons to believe that. (for example the many riders who said the 800cc bikes are much easier to ride and handle.)

About your point of Checa/ Nakano: there struggling to find the contact with the leaders. They are struggling, because of a ''not so competative'' Honda and the Michelin tyres. But still they're quite on the pace. Just not fast enough to do a good job, but this doesn't say nothing about the handling of a 800cc bike.

Look at West for example. He immediatly went fast on the kawasaki. Fighting in the midpack!

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continu.....

and also Duhamel/ Fabrizio/ Nieto were having contact with the group immediatly. In my opening Davies is not doing any better than the riders I just described and being fast enough to battle with the Tech3 Yamaha's during a race doesn't really impress me.

It is hard for the fans, but I don't believe in the talents of Davies. He just doesn't show it!
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fukcing hell whats he supposed to do????? He's never tested, worked with the team, engineers, tyres, or anything else. He's ridden the tracks, but thats not much help on a bike like nothing else he's ridden before. Results haven't set the world alight, but, I think the pace he's demonstrated at times does make him worthy of some time to see what his full potential is.
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I don't get your point Plaggie when you say
"Riding/ adapting a RC212V is not so difficult, because of the very smooth character it has. Everybody who steps on is immediatly on the pace!!"

Chaz Davies isn't riding a Honda, he's riding a Ducati. And as for the 212V being "on the pace" immediately, why then did Carlos Checa, a man with vast experience of riding
GP bikes for over 10 years say "This was my worst bike ever" about the 212V?

Anthony West *has* gone fast and competed well on the Kawasaki and good on him, but have you seen how much time (of the limited time he's had) Chaz has spent in the pits waiting on the D'Antin bike being fixed cos this or that isn't working? Nearly half!
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