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OnceWaz

August 30, 2013 7:30 PM

Wosideg, it doesn't matter what Hayden says or does on the ducati, his performance is of no consequence to the fact that Stoner had multiple wins, podiums and poles on a bike Rossi couldn't ride so discarded despite having proven pedigree.
Not quite but almost like comparing what Jorge can do on the M1 compared to Rossi now?

wosideg

August 30, 2013 8:24 PM

Proven pedigree my arris..

What part of..

5 unforced error race crashes,
158pts behind in the standings,
4th for the second year on the trot..
and failing to beat 2 riders who had 7 races off with proper injuries..

do you NOT understand?

Stoner was not competitive in 2010.
He didn't tame anything.
Three late season wins interspersed with crashes is not evidence the bike was a contender.

Preziosi and Stoner reckoned the bike was good.
They were wrong and must shoulder some of the blame.

If Ducati had listened to Rossi & Burgess instead of getting the hump and acting so pig-headed, they may have been a lot closer to the opposition today than they are.

OnceWaz

August 30, 2013 9:24 PM

Rossi couldn't ride the ducati and he's a clear step behind where most thought he would be, mixing it up with the satellite riders on his very own M1, so what does he do?
"MotoGP bikes are too perfect"...
I don't think Ducati would be happy to hear him say that after building him a new frame every other week and pandering to his every whim.
What's next for him? Looks like HRC can expect a call from Tuvilla sometime soon. Maybe he can ride THEIR carbon framed RCV?
Watch this space.

Rabcati

August 31, 2013 1:05 AM

oncewaz, Rossi did a more than adequate job at the start of 2011 on the Carbon Fibre frame. He was tangling with a certain HRC bike several races running if I remember correctly. Stoner showed the Ducati was being left in the dust finishing off the podium most of 2010 and the gap was even bigger the following year.

BurroMiapanino

August 31, 2013 5:46 AM

Rabcati, he certainly did 'tangle' with him!
If you think wet races are a good indication of bikes relative performance then you're on a different page than most of us.
Actually Stoner finished on the podium for 9 out of 18 races in 2010 which proves your opinion categorically and absolutely incorrect and with more points than 2009 he clearly improved the bike despite missing 3 rounds through illness.
Stoner - 1st
Rossi - 7th
What more is there to say, you clearly remember 2011 differently to me.

golfnut04

August 31, 2013 6:28 AM

I agree with Bmac regarding the company line, but he's on his way out (forced) so whats the purpose to be diplomatic at this point, cant wait for next year when their asses get handed to them by HRC Honda factory, satellite and PR Bikes, Yamaha Factory , satellite and NGM bike, Aprillia Factory and maybe some customer bikes and finally Suzuki Wildcards, I'm not a hater for im a Duc fan but their lack of focus and direction is their own downfall.

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