BSB » Guintoli out for 'longer than first anticipated'


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today - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 6:59 PM

Reading between the lines of these and other comments one could deduce that the underlying feeling is that the incident was the result of, at best, stupidity or even malevolence.
For the benefit of rider safety, shouldn't 'rogue' riders be excluded?
The championship is ruined now as Guintoli/Crescent Suzuki were the only team capable of a serious threat to Airwaves Yamaha (no disrespect intended to MSS Kawasaki).

Sick Cylinder - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 7:07 PM

I am very sorry to hear that Guintoli will require a second operation - I hope he recovers soon.

Denning is right to say "apparent incompetence of another competitor" - a one race suspended ban is a ridiculously light sentence - why suspended? - this means Brookes would have to commit a second offence for the ban to be actioned. No rider collides on purpose because they could easily injure themselves, but this was a formation lap and the data shows Brookes was riding at racing speeds - there is no excuse for that let alone forgetting to brake - should be a ban for 3 meetings not suspended.

windalicka - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 7:28 PM

Sylvain seems a top pro & of course a very good rider.I wish him a full recovery,fast but effective.I find however, Mr P Dennning's comments about rider incompetance a little 'pot calling kettle black',given certain past form by the Crescent Team.In racing,mistakes happen,Oul Park 02 is a good example of a Crescnet major incompetance oil leak wiping out many riders,thats not a rider but ****(& imcompetance)happens,another incident regarding rider imcompetance occured at Oul Park 99 when an RC45 rider was in the wrong place at the wrong Stalker Suzuki time.That was a big one.At Brands 2001,Crescent rider Crockford put a superstock rider in Hospital in a blatant move. Or was it imcompetance??

twindalicka - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 7:39 PM

Adding to my prev comment.Slyvain is a racer,a very good one.He knows the glory he knows the pain.If Brookes screwed up,he did not mean it did he?!!Slyvain appeared to get it wrong at the corkscrew in 2007 & put Alex Hoffman out for a long while. Hoffmans team were probably upset also at the time, as that was incompetance.It happens and Mr Denning has raced,been in racing and reached great levels in racing to understand that these things can & will happen.I have been involved in racing @ a sound level & know the above also,and you take the good times with the bad times.Having met Jack Valentine on a few occasions,I think as dissapointed as he is,he,unlike his boss will not lose sight of this

Rog, Rishton - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 8:41 PM

Whilst I'm sure that Brookes did not in any way intentionally take out Guintoli the fact that he KNOWINGLY tried to mislead the stewards, organisers and his own team speaks volumes about the guy- a one race suspended ban is in no way enough punishment.

windalicka - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 8:47 PM

Granted Sick, but a BSB or national level formation lap is often taken at a quicker pace than a road ride or track day, meaning, its a dangerous risky business from out of the pits to parc ferme. These guys may be professionals, and Brookes deserves to be one on past form. BUT, they are human. I m not at all suggesting that Brookes was this or Guintolli was that, the forums on many pages are varied in fault and blame. What I was suggesting is that Paul Denning should know as head of team and enterprise guilty of creating incidents aswell as unluckily being involved in them, that accidents can and will happen at any stage of a race weekend.

Windalickakicka - Unregistered

May 26, 2009 9:05 PM

Anybody remember this kind of thing happening in major competition before?? ever?? despite windalickas assertion that Suzuki some how had it coming?? no doubt due to some accident that was actually in a RACE?? It's hard to see how it can be defended, sometimes you have to put your hand up and take your medicine..Brookes was the most out of order I've seen in racing in a very long time, in fact considering it was a sighting lap I think it's the worstever...

Lez Pearson

May 26, 2009 9:06 PM

In reply to the below readers comments about incompetence with the blown engine at Oulton and Walker hitting the rider at Oulton they both had one thing in common, they were in the race or Qualifying NOT on the way to the Grid!

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