BSB » Byrne: Championship isn’t over


The HM Plant Honda rider scored two fifth place finishes at Silverstone to lose more ground to his rivals.

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pp916 - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 11:27 AM

Under the REAL scoring system he has now dropped to second, just 5 points behind new leader Tommy Hill and 21 points ahead of Hopper. Laverty is -69 off the lead, Brookes 110, Kirkham moves ahead of Kiyo to -166 off, Kiyo is now at -173.
Still all to play for between those top 3!

The Dane - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 11:35 AM

Please... Do yo all think that Hopper would have missed a 2 races if the points system was like in the old days??? I think not. And now you say he would be 26 points off the lead!! But you all know that if he hadnt had the chance to not race those 2 races he would have taken home at least 20 points from those races. So please leave the old points system to what it is, the old point system and move on... Who ever wins wins fair and square.

pp916 - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 11:59 AM

@ The Dane......

Sorry, no can do....I'll be happy to accept Hopper as champion only if he comes thro' and wins the championship under a system that is fair to all participants and the current one patently isn't.
The fact that he could miss races without harming his championship chances is depriving the paying public of seeing the advertised riders and your assertion that he would have scored 20 points is pure speculation, he could just have easily have crashed and taken himself out of the meeting and the following rounds.

sammy - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 12:15 PM

give it a rest didn't hill miss some races earlier in the season or did we conveniently forget so only byrne has competed in all races and his point tally is down to consistency rather than wins but hill and hopper will better his total in old points by the end of the year so move on

Stuart - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 12:15 PM

Sorry I agree with The Dane.

The rules were stated clearly before the season started. Shakey's moaning that he should be leading the championship (before the shootout thingie) but he new the rules. As did Hopper.
Hopkins knew that resting his hand would make more sense than to risk damaging it. Should the rules have been the normal scoring system then he would have ridden around for some safe points, but as he would have needed a podium to chose not to.

In summary: Whoever wins the championship is the best rider. Simple as that.

Andrew Long

September 27, 2011 12:27 PM

Shakey knew the rules when he started the season - its not as though the format is new.

And anyway - he didn't do himself any favours with that collision at Donners - Hopper on the other hand is doing exactly what he needs to do. I know who I would put my money on!

fan - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 12:41 PM

@ I'll be happy to accept Hopper as champion only if he comes thro' and wins the championship under a system that is fair to all participants and the current one patently isn't.
Posted by pp916

I don't think John, or anyone else for that matter, is going to lose sleep becuase you won't accept John as a champion.

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but it's not your call to make.

You want to throw out that Hopkins could have crashed in the races he sat out. Ever hear of the butterfly effect? Him racing could have caused Shakey to crash out. You do not have a crystal ball, you cannot make assumptions as to how a race would have happened.

The more you rant the more you sound like a disgruntled Byrne fan. Get over it already.

fan - Unregistered

September 27, 2011 12:43 PM

@ under a system that is fair to all participants and the current one patently isn't.
Posted by pp916

At the start of the season, was there a different set of rules that was given to different riders?

Last I checked everyone plays by the same rules, thus making it fair for everyone.

Cubikrube

September 27, 2011 12:45 PM

Sammy, yes Tommy got injured in BSB after slipping on oil that was left by Loris Baz at Oulton Park and he has been playing catch up ever since and been doing a pretty good job of it. Hopper was injured during GP.

It's not about who got injured and where it is only about the points system being crap due to the shootout. I will cheer whoever wins (despite being a Tommy fan through and through) as long as they have the most points under the old system.

Still can't get my head round how Hopper is managing to get through the pain barrier...as with all bikers they can take ridiculous amounts of pain. Much respect.

As much as i hate to admit it Andrew i can see where you are coming from and he probably is favourite. Just hoping that Tommy can take it in the triple header but it is not going to be easy.

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