BSB » Alex Lowes disqualified for Byrne collision


Alex Lowes is disqualified from the results of the second MCE British Superbike Championship race following his collision with main title rival Shane Byrne.

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Chuuubbs

September 26, 2013 1:20 PM

I feel that the penalty was quite harsh in this instance and only done to keep the championship to the 1pt margin. Alex was going for a gap that had been there almost everylap in race one and the manouvere he won race one with. Shakey was also wide on the same corner a few laps before the incident occured. I think Alex made the decision to assume the gap would be there again but unfortunately it wasn't there, a mistake on his behalf. A mistake that caused Shakey to fall off so Alex was correct to be penalised but a start from the back of the grid or a 10sec race penalty would have been more fitting IMO.

Saarinenfan

September 26, 2013 1:53 PM

No doubt Lowes deserved some punishment, but the footage from James Ellison's bike shows just how little margin there was for error in this move. It was clearly not deliberate and, therefore, a racing incident, which Lowes was lucky not to go down from as well. Time penalties are normally awarded and this should have been the case here, as the move was all legal, ie made on the racetrack. To compare this incident with Sofuoglu's completely illegal move on Sam Lowes at Silverstone is nonsense, but it puts the organisers' cynicism totally in perspective..

Andiamo

September 26, 2013 5:30 PM

The sooner the young up and coming riders realise that this is not a contact sport , that you could seriously hurt/ kill someone the sooner the better and face the punishment dished out, they will soon stop . I have seen harsher punishments dished out for holding up the grid for a nano second. They get sent straight to the pack even if they had qualified in pole, Now that's what I call harsh

Andiamo

September 26, 2013 5:30 PM

The sooner the young up and coming riders realise that this is not a contact sport , that you could seriously hurt/ kill someone the sooner the better and face the punishment dished out, they will soon stop . I have seen harsher punishments dished out for holding up the grid for a nano second. They get sent straight to the pack even if they had qualified in pole, Now that's what I call harsh

killahrat

September 27, 2013 11:53 AM

To be honest I have never seen a worse piece of riding. Lowes had no hope of getting past unless Byrne had run wide.

If I was race direction I would have penalised Lowes grid places for the following round.

If Ellison goes on and wins it will make a complete mockery of the championship as he has been nowhere near all year.

Relentless2

September 28, 2013 1:53 PM

Right decision, Alex has the talent and determination to win more races. They did the same to Josh Brookes a couple of years ago when he got blamed for the Rutter incident so good enough for one good enough for all. Pity Rutter and the commentators were not as forgiving then!

Andiamo

September 29, 2013 9:04 AM

KILLARAT . If James ellison does win the championship if till be poetic justice and I hope Paul bird is watching . I cannot believe the amount of times his bike has broke down this season. He would be up there in the true standings with lowes and Byrne, however he has maintained his fourth position al year and never dropped below that, When you look at his lap times at assen and the Paul bird motogptimes of laverty and Hernandez CRT bike you will see that he has beaten their times on a bsb bike, I would love to see him win, not because I have Any dislike for any other racer . I think his team should give him a bike that is not going to let him down for the next five races and if not the they are to blame for him not winning the championship. Not James,

Dreaduk

September 30, 2013 11:40 AM

@TalentFan - once again you miss my point. Regardless of the physics which are incomprehensible (can't believe you compared a motorcycle crash to Newtons cradle, energy transfer under controlled conditions, no mention of gyroscopic effects, engine torque effects......remember that one, rev the engine and the bike moves on its stand? lean angle, tyre characteristics, gravity, momentum, acceleration, deceleration, turning angle, angle of approach, speed, track characteristics, did Lowes have a bacon sandwich before the race? etc.) even the best physicist would be guessing, but you reckon a toy sorts it all out. Apart from anything else Newton's cradle is upside down relative to the accident. But if you want to continue that particular discussion you might want to consider the 'moment of inertia' defined as: "the property of a body that defines its resistance to a change in angular velocity about an axis of rotation." I'd be interested to know just where the axis of rotation was on Lowes

Dreaduk

September 30, 2013 11:42 AM

I'd be interested to know just where the axis of rotation was on Lowes bike? Never mind Byrne's. The fact is the dynamics are far too complicated to work out never mind reduce to Newtons Cradle.
My point is that both accidents were entirely unintentional but both caused the DNF of another rider.
One was Byrne, a title contender, and one was Haga, not a title contender. Regardless of whether Bridewell finished or not, he was responsible for the crash of another rider. It doesn't matter if he was passing, past, beside or on top of Haga, Bridewell collided with him and took him off. Lowes stayed on his bike by sheer blind luck.
Do the rules now say you can cause someone to crash but as long as you crash yourself then that's OK?
An entirely contrived decision designed to satisfy the competition not the incident.

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