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ictbiker,rossi has won 3 out of 9 rounds,camier has won 12 of 15,no comparison there and at least theres been 5 different winners this year in motogp,absolutely pointless argument.and guintoli wouldnt have made an ounce of difference,he got the jump on an untested,str8 from the crate yamaha at the first round,an unrepeatable fluke win.