Porsche adds Mosley to reasons not to enter.

That's a bit rich coming from the Volkswagen Group which flew prostitutes in from Brazil for the benefit of its union leaders and local politicians. At least Mosley appears to have paid for his activities out of his own pocket and not used shareholder's money.

Porsche's last attempt at F1 was an unmitigated disaster with a heavy, overweight and under-powered engine. They probably know they would not be able to get the job done against Mercedes and BMW and that they are better off sticking to the Porsche cup where they have less competition.

Mosely has to go he is doing a lot of damage at the moment.

But he's far from the only issue. The cost of entry into F1 is to high. Sure F1 has been burned by teams like Lola that didn't even make the first race, but the money they ask of potential teams is to much.

What happens when the big corporations tire of F1? Unlike McLaren (well maybe not now, who has the controlling share there?) and Williams there isn't so much passion for the sport from Manufactures, they are just there to sell cars. If they pull out you don't just loose an engine supplier, but two cars from the grid.

Nice one Wolfgang!

Excuses, excuses... Afraid of playing with the Big Boys and getting chewed up by the piranhas. Come on Wolfgang, either put up or shut up! LOL!

"300 million euros a year? That is just burning money," VW's Ferdinand Piech claimed....correct me if i'm wrong but aint this the same guy who allowed subsiduary Bugtti build a car that works out of a cost 5 million per car and then sells them for 1 million????

The problem with Porsche is that they seem to be afraid to compete in a series unless they can dominate it. Instead they will stick to their Carrera Cup one make series that gets their brand exposure. Unfortunately. this series pales significantly to others such as the V8 Supercars. I think if you want to be a significant supercar brand, then you should expect to invest money in top flight racing series to really get that credibility. I'd like to see Lotus, Aston Martin and Lamborghini enter F1. Not all the money is wasted, look at the road cars Ferrari has developed over the last 10 years with similar concepts.

The Mosley mention was just an excuse to shadow the fact that Porsche don't want or can't get into F1. The Mosley situation is having an effect on F1 and the decision making process is being affected wich is not good for F1. HE HAS TO GO!

Germans are uber offended by the dirty old git that runs f1,does this mean that if mm effs off then they might consider coming on board,there is a need for some new people in f1.the total arrogance of mm is really getting on my nerves,f1 is suffering,a sport where the boss is not welcome in whole countries,even though there are gp's held there,and he cant go.

F1Tos is right. the mention of mosley was only an aside. no company, if it genuinely wanted to compete in F1, would cite a reason as trivial as that, to refuse to enter. it is JUST about cost

let face it, if it cost 75-150mil per year Porsche would actually be in f1 instead of whining about MM.

It's a shame really - I've always thought the Volkswagen Group are missing out on F1, particularly given they have so many famous names in their portfolio to utilise - Audi, Lamborghini, Bentley and now Porsche are involved with VAG too. Even so, I don't think they are really in a position to throw money at F1. Porsche maybe, but they've always been very savvy with their motorsport and they are doing just fine in the US it seems. They don't really need F1 to boost their profile.

Before we get too rough on Piech for complaining about costs, dont forget that F1 is causing the entire Renault corporation to operate at a loss. Before F1 is figured in, Renault is a profitable company. After F1 is added to the bottom line, there is a loss running into several millions.

Let's face it, at the moment F1 is about as attractive to newcomers as snail-racing!
The rules are mega-restrictive, it costs billions, there are dodgy geezers at the top and at the end of the day you won't beat Ferrari.

Well, obviously, Lauda won in 1984 (with a one halve point advantage over Prost) but Prost won in 85, not Lauda.

Prost then won again in 86.

Formula 1 needs Porsche and VW more than they need Formula 1 ...

Is that a picture of Takuma Sato in a Porsche? Wouldn't Honda mind that?

I think if you look at the historical records, it was Alain Prost who won back to back titles in 85-86. Niki Lauda won it in 1984.

People just need to accept that not every car manufacturer sees F1 as their pinnacle, OR as their best marketing tool.

VW group, through more than one of its brands, is pushing diesel technology hard, which in a more and more eco-conscious world is going to sell more cars than any F1 attempt.

Porsche has ALWAYS considered endurance racing as more their corporate/sales image than F1, even AFTER winning 3 drivers and 2 constructors championships with Mclaren before being shafted in favor of Honda. After all Porsche is one of the few companies thats managed to be involved in F1 and sports car racing at the same time AND with top level success.

Why should Porsche get involved? They are highly successful in sports cars, and what are they trying to sell? Sports cars.

The Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday works much better when the rich guys see a Porsche GT3 win a race, and they can buy a very similar road going model of the same car.

Imagine the hit Porsche would take if they did a Toyota?

"they have so many famous names in their portfolio to utilise - Audi, Lamborghini, Bentley and now Porsche are involved with VAG too"

Boo: there is a slight difference between the names you mention and Porsche. A, L and B are part of the Volkswagen Group. Porsche is not becoming part of the VAG, they are buying it. In other words, VAG will be part of Porsche.

Dave: Porsche does a lot more than the Porsche Carrera Cup. Like Le Mans series endurance racing with their Porsche RS Spyder. And quite successfully at that.

I think Porsche could do well in F1 if they set their mind to it. They certainly have the technological skills to do it.