Silverstone has had its fair share of time as the ‘Home of the British Grand Prix', F1 ringmaster Bernie Ecclestone underlines – if the race doesn't move to Donington Park in 2010, it will move to a different country altogether.
Bernie you wont live forever so it probably will in a couple of years old man. Also once the fans see how dire the Donington facilities are they will demand it moves.
Posted by AxisOfEvil - Unregistered (60 days ago)
19 people agree.
what a nasty vindictive little man. this "contract" with donington was only signed to oversee the demise of the british gp. to hell with the fans!
I'm curious as to how you Brits feel about not having a British GP at all. What I mean is, would you rather keep the GP but at sub-par facilities (while knowing Bernie is making millions)? Or would you be willing to say the hell with the British GP as a whole (for the near future) taking satisfaction in Bernie not getting his way? The reason I ask is because, as much as I would like to go to the USGP (I've never been), and as much as I think we should have a GP here in the states - I kind of like the fact that Tony George is (presumably) standing up to Bernie and not playing his game.
Posted by Matt - Unregistered (60 days ago)
1 people agree.
AxisOfEvil, since when has BE listened to the fans. Maybe if his bank manager is a fan of silverstone he may listen, but i doubt it. There was another thread where someone suggested the move to donnington was just a sly way of removing the GP from the calender and i'm beginning to agree. Donnington has a year to get it up to the dwarf's standards and i know that civils work, and more to the point civils work in the uk doesn't happen that quickly.
There is a lot of confusion about the standing of Silverstone and F1. Silverstone is said to have been the home of F1 for the last 60 years, so how come during that period all the best British GP races where at Brands Hatch? Why is it at Silverstone the spectator never really sees any racing, it always on another part of the track. If F1 is a motor racing sport, why is there no racing? Why is that the Car manufacturers have killed off the meaning of motor sport?
Posted by Ian - Unregistered (60 days ago)
1 people disagree.
As for an answer to matt, as a brit i personally think we need the British GP, we don't have as many other top line racing series over here. ok we have BTCC (which is alright), ELMS (which isn't as popular or closely contested as ALMS) and one round of DTM but none of those are promoted as, well, grandly as F1. Maybe we could do without F1 and maybe A1GP could step into its place but i'm not sure how the average joe public that do get involved on the GP weekend would react to these different series.
What if the fans decide that they'd rather stick with Silverstone and not take up Donington's fanciful debenture scheme? Would that mean that Donington doesn't get the cash it needs to rebuild? What then?
And what will the fans get for their 'debenture'? There are hardly going to be enough grandstand seats to go around - or enough people wanting to pay through the nose for them. Wembley it ain't......
Posted by topdog - Unregistered (60 days ago)
Just to clarify, an F1 schedule w/out a British GP is unthinkable (I feel the same about the USGP but that's a whole different story). I was just wondering whether you guys could live without it for a short time, to call Bernie's bluff, because it would HAVE to come back eventually.
Posted by Matt - Unregistered (60 days ago)
6 people agree.
Bernie is sounding like an embittered old man who cannot get his way. How silly to threaten to do away with Grand Prix's from the centre and one of the birth place's of the sport and the training ground of so many world champions and teams. There should be two races in the UK to reflect the contribution the country has made to Formula 1 and once Bernie and Max are gone I am sure this will happen.
Posted by Peter Buckleigh Auckland New Zealand. - Unregistered (60 days ago)
I read a report a few years ago which said that the British Motor/sport industry was the second biggest industry next to the Aerospace (industry). You would think the amount of money and people involved in that "sport" the British government will do all it can to help the GP stay there! I know my government in Australia helps out in keeping the GP here.
Posted by Lucifer - Unregistered (60 days ago)
4 people agree.1 people disagree.
why all Posts about Silverstone its Pants Donington is a better track facilities may be poor but you can see the track! if the moneys spent on Donington its good thing. is it because its a bit far north i really wonder Silverstone's been on life support for 5years nothing's been done they had there chance and blew it
Posted by f1 - Unregistered (60 days ago)
4 people agree.1 people disagree.
if only it were so Lucifer.
the government we have at the moment does nothing to promote sport of any kind in this country. it's a national disgrace. Do you know how we support our sports people in this country?? With money from the National Lotto Game!!! So the government doesn't contribute anything, they're too busy bombing middle eastern countries to secure oil reserves, and putting our armed service personnel in harms way with inadequate equipment.
the sooner people wake up to whats going on in this country the better.
This whole situation that Ecclestone has created is absolutely ridiculous. Silverstone is a good circuit with excellent spectator facilities. The pits are being done in the very near future and the circuit will be of a very high standard as a whole. It is one of the fastest tracks in the world, and there are some fantastic places to watch the racing. I think that announcing this subject during the grand prix weekend was a very harsh thing to do on all of us who regularly visit Silverstone. Lewis winning giving everyone a fantastic day out just showed why the grand prix should be kept here.
Donington is a great circuit, but i think this as a motogp fan, not for F1
Thanks
Posted by Tom O - Unregistered (60 days ago)
I said very early on that Donington were naive about getting ready in time, and that BE knew this very well and so the whole thing was a roundabout way of killing the British GP. Bernie is still sore about being the source of the first funding scandal for the Labour Government, and sore at being on the receiving end of the BRDCs past snobbiness.
This just makes me more certain. It just possible that Donnington gets the new track laid and the new facilities built in time. But there is no way on Gods green earth that any highways upgrades will be done in time, and we know that the A43 is a dual carriageway for Bernies benefit alone, and site access is the real problem here.
Posted by Robsy - Unregistered (60 days ago)
just saw on f1sa website, that tilke has been contracted to modify donington. if it is ready n time, it will be another antiseptic tilke circuit, devoid of character. but i still doubt it could be completed in time.
The UK Government has put money in F1 and Silverstone - please tell me who funded the Silverstone bypass which runs between the M40 and M1 - yep the government. I have travelled on both old and new roads and I can tell you that the bypass is much better and must have cost a packet !
I just wonder how much will needed to be spent on the roads around Donny to bring it up to scratch ??
Bernie's fixation on the middle and far east will eventually separate the sport from it's roots in Europe and turn the sport into a kind of video game, seen only on a screen by most of the viewers. The bland tracks and locales will heighten the similarity. But the huge waste of fuel in transporting the teams will be its undoing. That and the over-emphasise on technical development which at this time is really just tweaking the standard formula without a commensurate increase in interesting racing. It's amazing that the sport is bedeviled by the 2 old gits Max and Bernie, that seem so much about their egos.
Posted by edward - Unregistered (60 days ago)
ive said it before in a different thread and i will say it again this is just a ploy of BE to get rid of the british gp he knows it will not be ready in time he just wants to do what he has been trying to do for ages and that is adding turkey to the gp calendar
im sorry but if the British GP dissappears altogether to let another ****** middle east GP on then thats bull****. Who in the middle east can actually afford to go to an F1 race anyway?
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