DTM » Stoddart taking the pressure off in '08.

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Enda H - Unregistered

April 01, 2008 5:49 PM

Susie has been quick in F3 and the McLaren BRDC Autosport driver competition. She deserves this chance to show her talent. Judging by her previous two years in DTM she should no doubt improve. Experience will help. It will take time for even Schumacher to get on the pace and even he admits that.

Iain Langmaid - Unregistered

April 01, 2008 5:57 PM

I think she will be very competitive this year and will pick up a few points and even the odd podium in the year old C-Klasse in comparison to what she drove last season. Okay the car will be new to learn and to setup as it will be 2007 car she will be in, but she will know the circuits. It will be an enjoyable season this year.

Paul P - Unregistered

April 02, 2008 3:49 AM


Quick in F3? She did two races and they were disasterous. Look at her profile on driverdb.com - she's NEVER won a race. And three podiums in 72 (!) races. It's totally unjustifiable. Sorry. As for the McLaren Autosport, a) she was nowhere, b) there was a lot of lobbying done on her behalf, and c) 'her nemesis', Paul di Resta won, and has never looked back. Look at di Resta on drvierdb - 93 races, 11 wins, 14 poles, and 27 podiums....am I talking about them in the same sentence?? Argghhh - shame on me :blush:


I hear you, but tell me another job where you have three years to 'learn and prove yourself'. If you can do that successfully, I will shut up. :?

Foo Atari

April 02, 2008 2:23 PM

Maybe she pays for the drive/bring sponsorship. There are plenty of drivers that pay their way into F1 that really shouldn't have been there in the first place.

But she has never had a competitive car has she? (maybe I'm wrong though) thought all have been 3 years old. How has she comapred to team mates in the same car?

Enda H - Unregistered

April 02, 2008 6:06 PM


Sorry my mistake I meant Formula Renault. She didnt really get the chance in F3 after she broke her leg or foot (cant remember the full details).

Yes her results are not as good as di Resta's but he is a mega quick driver that should be in GP2 or in a testing role in F1. But motorsport series around the world dont have a grid full of drivers all on the same pace.
Give her this season then you can say what you want. I think she has potential.

An example of a job where you have 3 years to learn would be a rally driver in the Stobart Team. Thats what Latvala did and now he is a winner and fighting for a championship. Matthew Wilson is currently in a four year learning seat.

Iain Langmaid - Unregistered

April 02, 2008 7:46 PM


You are right mate. Stoddart last year in the DTM had a 2005 C Klasse Mercedes so it was obvious that she would not have the chance to show what she can do. But she will be more competitive in having last years C Klasse. Year old cars whether or not they are Audi or Mercedes were competitive last season as Gary Paffett showed by winning in his 2006 Laureus C Klasse Mercedes. But I am not if is was Oschersblen or the Lautschitzring. As for Paul P. Graduate schemes are examples. Where graduates join a company, learn about the company, the role that they have within the company and meeting and working with their clients. Usually they last 2 or 3 years.

Paul P - Unregistered

April 03, 2008 12:14 PM

Dear all, thanks for your views/comments.

A few facts:

Adam Carroll arrived in a 3 year old car and outshone her immediately - 8th quickest time first time out etc. di Resta and Paffett WON in the same age of car. "All you can do is hope to beat your team mate" - she hasn't done that, ever - in any formula!

Look at the times from the first three test days of the season (www.dtm.de).

Plenty of laps (safe to assume no major car problems) - slowest on all bar one day, when she was second slowest, and DTM debutant Katherine Legge immediately quicker in first full DTM test. Ms. Stoddart's position isn't quite as untenable as one Mr. M. Mosely, but you'd have to say it's bad

Enda H - Unregistered

April 03, 2008 3:21 PM


You seem to have something against Susie Stoddart. Testing doesnt show the true picture. Is there anything to win if you top the times in testing? No. Stop comparing her to other drivers. Nobody is the same. Its motorsport.

We do not know the full story of testing. We do not know her set up etc. You are not her engineer, are you?

I think you should wait until the end of the season or until a few rounds in to comment.

Paul P - Unregistered

April 04, 2008 12:15 AM


I have a problem with anyone that is paid to do a job that they clearly don't deliver on. We live in a 'comparative culture', so when you suggest that even Schumacher will struggle at first, you're making such a reference point statement. I'm simply stating facts.

Susie and other women get trashed for being female drivers. So the comparison to KL is natural and very relevant. My points were each supported by facts, and with so many good drivers without funding, it does grind on me a bit to see SS employed purely because of her gender; there, I've said it.

PS I am no mysogonist - and am in fact a fan of other women drivers, particularly Danica (The Fast, Sexy, Brand)

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