Bernie: Teams need F1 more than F1 needs them
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@ mrdood

moral of the story ...

history, international sanctioning bodies, etc all mean very little.

If the show is good, the fans will follow, the TV will follow, it will succeed.

What makes the show?
The competitors (in this case teams & drivers)
How you present it

Does FOTA have the ability to deliver those 2 things?
YES

Do they need FIA, Max, Bernie, CVC, the F1 name it order to deliver?
NO
Posted by Dale - Unregistered (158 days ago)
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F1 » Bernie: Teams need F1 more than F1 needs them

Bernie Ecclestone has warned the FOTA dissenters to think carefully before jumping ship and forming their own 'breakaway' series - arguing they wouldn't last a second without F1's support.

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I see plenty of talk about what Bernie and Max have done about saftey in F1.but have we forgotten about the work that Jackie Stewart and others did before the Max and Bernie money making machine got into gear.
Posted by John Hughes - Unregistered (155 days ago)
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bernie your an old age pensioner whos lost the plot retire and grow roses for god sake
Posted by bengo - Unregistered (157 days ago)
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Ecclestone is nothing short of an arrogant fool - a classic case of small man syndrome. If the FOTA teams left F1 would be finished and his empire would be destroyed. He forgets this, and is astonishingly rude to the hands that feed him. The sport would be better off without him and Mosely.
Posted by George Smith - Unregistered (157 days ago)
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Who cares? there's no racing anyway
Posted by ySweeble - Unregistered (158 days ago)
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FOTA 1 - Mosley 0
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Ok you guys, and ladies: Mosley will not stand for another term, 2009 rules will apply until 2012 and no caps.
Posted by Mob rules - Unregistered (158 days ago)
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"the 40 million cap (and that's euros btw, not Pounds, so its really 38. somthing Million pounds)"

2010 Sporting regs, Appendix 8, section 5.1

"The total annual relevant expenditure of a CRT when competing in the Championship must not exceed £40 million in 2010 (the Cost Cap)."

looks like UK pounds to me (and note thats relevant expenditure, not annual budget)

Otherwise you were right, as was pointed out several weeks ago, at 40 million per team per annum, they wouldn't need a sponsor or any other income (read the regs, they even talk about shares from profits), the fact it's not all the potential expenditure is somewhat of an issue. But this is just covering rather old ground.
Posted by Al - Unregistered (158 days ago)
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Thank PMG. I left last night at page 8 today I read all the comments again. Anyone who thinks the teams are incapable to organise a championship should stop watching F1 and do some chores at home or where ever. As for Bernie and Mosley none of you, perhaps few may have, caught what they are up to. If they had solid points in their contracts with the teams by now they would be in court to prove those points. They are scared the teams are going to go and they will be left with nothing. That is one of the reasons one day they go court the other they withdraw the threat and so on.
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Those of you not in the UK might like to know Mosley let slip the real reason for the 40 million cap (and that's euros btw, not Pounds, so its really 38. somthing Million pounds) in an interview with the BBC alittle before the British GP. During the interview he said with a budget of 40 million, Bernie's FOM could give the teams the 40 million, so they would not need to go out finding any sponsorship money.

This of course would make the teams totaly dependent on the FIA and FOM, Max and Bernie would total control F1, the teams would be reduced to little more than hired guns. Add this to Max's wish for one engine supplier, he is out to drive out the big teams at a time of HIS choosing.
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Judging by the comments recently from Max and Bernie they're getting desperate and losing touch with reality.
The above from Bernie is just plain silly given the debt he has to finance.
If FOTA are intending to go with a specialist events management group to organise the Competition then it seems to me to be quite achievable.
Perhaps the next readers poll should be on what name to call it.
dj
Posted by denis - Unregistered (158 days ago)
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