F1 » Toyota hints F1 pull-out not impossible

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Neil - Unregistered

September 30, 2009 10:11 AM

A good team, yes. Even with all the money they had, and still no top step!! Even if Michael Schuey, was driving, I dont think that would help them.
They need to speak to the Force India crew, to see how to make a good car, on a small budget

andrewm - Unregistered

September 30, 2009 10:13 AM

How can loosing any team from the F1 grid be a good thing?

If the likes of USF1, Manor and Campos do bother to show up next year, they will be this decades equivalent to Simtek, Pacific and Forti and will not last unless they are quick out the box. As for the fake "Lotus", don't even get me started on that travesty!

Johnson - what is your obsession with Merc and Ferrari being the only engine manufacturers? The more engine manufacturers the better.

Cubikrube - Unregistered

September 30, 2009 10:19 AM

I'll say it again,
Whoever it was spouting on here a few months back about manufacturers being the lifeblood of F1.....watch and learn, watch and learn. They are dropping like flies. Independent teams ARE the lifeblood of F1, always have and always will be


September 30, 2009 10:48 AM

How many indies have been around as long as Ferrari?

How many manufacturers have gone by the way side in comparison to indies? Toyota made no impression in F1 Whereas Honda BMW Mercedes Ferrari and Renault have.

Midland Jordan Stewart Sauber Minardi Ligier Tyrrell Toleman Spyker Brabham March Cooper Dallara Lola Penske Ensign Shadow Wolf Kojima Lek Hesketh McGuire Footwork Forti Pacific Simtek Arrows Onyx OGS Zakspeed Euro-Brun........And over 20 others!
Indies that have come and gone as they please.

Cubikrube that is why the rocks that are the Manufacturers are so imperative to F1... They will still be here in 50 years whereas Williams wont!

Cubikrube - Unregistered

September 30, 2009 10:55 AM

Yep they might have come and gone but here's the important bit, there have always been other Indi's out there ready to take up the challenge. There are a limited amount of manufacturers out there to replace the ones that leave. I don't see any big names coming in next season...they are mostly indi teams..even the one's with a recognised badge are being run like an indi team. Ferrari is the only one who have been in since the start...but you make a big mistake when you use Williams as an example...not successful recently but hugely successful in the past and they have been around for donkeys years.

Game/Set/Match...just after you mention Williams...that'll be tennis not motorsport :p

Alan D - Unregistered

September 30, 2009 11:15 AM

Fred, please do not repeat Max's propaganda that it was him who wanted to reduce costs and FOTA who wanted to carry on spending like there was no tomorrow. FOTA have come up with a lot of cost-saving measures. FOTA are all for cost saving measures. The only issue was that Max's solution of slapping a budget cap on it and making it an accountants game was unacceptable to them. Meanwhile, it is the FIA that changes the regs every year and insisted on bringing in KERS, movable front wings etc which has added to design and build costs, the FIA which wouldn't clarify diffuser regs leading to many teams having to design the car twice, etc.

Alan D - Unregistered

September 30, 2009 11:22 AM

I've long thought Toyota's problem has been that it thinks its engineering skills are so good that it can build a race winning car and stick any old driver in there. Who have they had driving for them? Ralf Schumacher, Jarno Trulli, solid but not spectacular. I think they need to invest in a star driver and build a team around him, build a car which is suited to his driving style, the way that Ferrari rediscovered itself by building around Michael Schumacher. Right now I think they should be chasing hard for Kimi.

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