F1 » DC: Piquet Jr as guilty as anyone.


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fredd2 - Unregistered

October 10, 2009 1:16 PM

The last race of the 1997 (see above comment), when Villeneuve let the McLarens go by in some sort of gesture, Coulthard was told to let Hakkinen win and that he should place second. I'll bet Coulthard thinks he shouldn't have done as he was told in that instance either. Pressure is easy to assess from the commentator's chair.

andrew_

October 10, 2009 1:50 PM

Surely the times when Coulthard let Hakinen past to win, was acting as a moving road block for Hakinen or lifting off on the racing line in Spa 98 are just as bad? Piquet, to be fair, was following team orders as Coulthard has done on many occasions.

richard

October 10, 2009 2:06 PM

andrew, a totally silly comment. these were not team orders in the normal sense, just an alledged agreement to a move piquet himself suggested! there is a hell of a difference between backing off , and deliberately crashing/ blackmail

andrew_

October 10, 2009 2:16 PM

Still team orders no mater how you dress them up.

There has not been anything to confirm who acctually suggested the crash and the truth will never be discovered or revealed. To pin the blame on either Piquet, Briatore, Symonds or Alonso is purely speculation.

RacerGil - Unregistered

October 10, 2009 2:34 PM

I agree with a great many of you who maintain that cheating in one form or another (including team orders) has been ongoing for as long as F1 has been around.Piquet's incident is no different. While I thoroughly dislike Briatore, the question begs to be asked. How much of this is Mosely's settling of accounts before his departure. He was prepared to give the perpetrator immunity in order to be able to hang his enemy out to dry. You give Mcl a $100 M fine for espionage, and orchestrate the departure of Dennis but nothing to Piquet or Renault for supposedly the "worst" example of cheating in F1 history. This is another example of FIA's institutionalized persecution of the enemies of Max.

Rus the Bus - Unregistered

October 10, 2009 2:43 PM

@RacerGil

You are dead right here. Other bickering as usual on this forum ignore the true ploitics going on. Mad Max has taken his revenge with Rotten Ron and Fat Flav now both history!!

DC is only making these coments as he wants to ensure Baby Piquet doesn't get a F1 drive in 2010, as he has designs to see open race seats filled by far more deserving candidates.

RacerGil - Unregistered

October 10, 2009 2:56 PM

@Rus the Bus
One of the great advantages to Piquet with all the scandal is that he manages to shroud the fact that he is a putrid driver (in F1 terms) that shows no more abilities on track than Grosjean. His career went dreadfully wrong from the moment he was paired with Alonso. I think that on merit alone he does not deserve a place on the grid, but if you add his weak character and "fragile" state of mind, he is a danger to himself and others.

andrew_

October 10, 2009 3:01 PM

richard - I am not pinning the blame for crashgate on anyone as no-one knows what really happened. I am not disagreeing with Coulthard's comments but he has had a few dodgy moments in his career. This is not about being anxious to diagree with anyone (same could be said about you).

Insider - Unregistered

October 10, 2009 3:11 PM

It's all very well to say Piquet should have been punished but how would the FIA have got the evidence without Piquet's cooperation? And how could they have nailed Flav without the evidence?

Maybe Max doesn't like Flav, but that's no reason to let him get away with a serious breach of the rules which could have killed someone.

As to McLaren, they stole the entire Ferrari IP (worth a lot more that $100M) and then, unlike Renault, deliberately and repeatedly misled the FIA which had to mount a major forensic investigation to extract the truth. They were lucky not to have been thrown out of the World Championship.

Exclusion from the Championship would have put McLaren out of business.



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