F1 » Sir Jack Brabham honoured with re-enactment

Three-time F1 World champion Sir Jack Brabham thrilled by tribute at Surfers Paradise.

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October 25, 2009 2:56 PM

nice tribute, but i wonder what would happen today, if a car was pushed over the finish line. it might happen next year due to no refuelling. instant DQ, hefty fine, and a 20 place drop on grid for the next 5 races. other suggestions in a brown envelope, to fia!

Alan D - Unregistered

October 25, 2009 3:43 PM

Richard, I have a vague recollection of them changing the rules to make it a disqualification. I think these days it counts as the car receiving outside assistance. Of course, it would also be quite dangerous.

I've also seen speedway riders pushing their bikes home to get the last point, and in speedway there was a time limit on the race, so the crowd would be cheering on the guy pushing his 500cc bike 300 yards against the clock, made even harder by the steel shoe on on the left foot. In my experience, the speedway crowds always cheered these guys for their efforts, regardless of which team they rode for.


October 25, 2009 4:56 PM

Yes the speedway crowed always cheered no matter the team the driver drove for, that's a hell of a lot different from the crowed at Silverstone cheering/booing the effort of those stretchering MM with a Brocken leg.
Richard that's a good one from you, the post.


October 25, 2009 5:23 PM

alan, thanks. but why wasnt lulu disqualified when his car was lifted from the kitty litter and placed back on track, two years ago?? and by the way, pushing your own car, wouldnt be OUTSIDE assistance, would it?


October 25, 2009 6:11 PM

Richard, you sort of touched something inside me as I feel privileged/lucky to have lived/witnessed such things and not only being able to quote history, I remember the other extreme when that darling of all crowds especially the Tifosi wanted to win so much was leading a race from Gerhard Berger refused repeated calls to refuel and loose the lead, his temperament was such that FB when asked what will happen next said he will be on the pit wall with a gun aimed at Jean Ales next time, there was also the grand sum/fine, at the time, of 6k dollar by JT when he lost his temper in the Ferrari garage , and right after his reaction was, it was worth it, Richard that was the time it was.

Alan D - Unregistered

October 25, 2009 7:12 PM

Richard, I don't recall the incident you referred to but the rule is that if a car is in a dangerous position then it can be pushed by the marshalls and if the engine is still running then the driver can resume the race, on the basis that given enough time, he might have been able to free himself. That interpretation was given after Schumacher got stuck on the edge of a gravel trap. As regards a driver pushing his own car, that's still deemed outside assistance and is a DQ. And please, I'm not asking you to like Hamilton or any other driver but please don't use "Lulu" which you know many of us find derogatory and offensive.


October 25, 2009 8:24 PM

alan, it was in lulus first year, i think it was japan, but some statistician can correct me. lulu went off the road and was stranded, a mobile crane came and lifted the car, with lulu still in it. it placed him on the track, and as the engine was still running, lulu drove off. there was never any action taken over that/ i think that he went on to score some points. and as for the name, it is a nickname that is also used in the pits, and there is nothing derogatory intended or implied.

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