F1 » Toyota to sell 2010 F1 car to USF1 or Manor?

Toyota's 2010 car could be run by one of the new F1 teams next season, according to reports in the press.

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November 13, 2009 10:46 AM

why on earth would usf1 be interested in buying the toyota. after all, they have been working on their own cart for five years, and are claimed, by windsor, to be well advanced and ready to roll. ok, there has been NO news of any sort from manor, so they may be interested (out of desperation). i guess that the christmas pantomime season is now with us!


November 13, 2009 11:07 AM


A 2010 toyota will be quicker than a USF1 developed for 5 years. Toyota will be cutting edge in comparison.
Personally i want to see what a cosworth can do in a competitive chassis. See exactly how much assistance "cossie" actually got!

Steve Robinson - Unregistered

November 13, 2009 11:35 AM

This latest report from Crash.net ignores previous news that Manor are working in association with Nick Wirth's company, Wirth Research (he of Simtek fame, who also designed & built the Acura LMP cars). Apparently the Manor GP car will be built by Wirth Research & Nick Wirth will be the technical director of Manor GP.

Martin - Unregistered

November 13, 2009 12:31 PM

If any of the four new teams need to buy a chassis from someone else, they shouldn't've been admitted onto the 2010 grid. They've all had plenty of time to prepare their own designs and get their manufacturing up and running. It's not as if the Toyota will be a quantum leap ahead - the engine was almost certainly the better part of their package. On the other hand, how well-developed is the 2010 intended BMW car? This might be a good option for them if Toyota don't sell their place on the grid and it thus goes to Sauber/Qadbak.

Jason Carter - Unregistered

November 13, 2009 12:56 PM

This is just another rumor being started by the press. Toyota may want to sell their design, but nobody is looking to buy it. I can't speak for the other teams, but I have followed everything related to USF1 since their accnouncement at the beginning of this year. USF1 is built around the idea to showcase American build cars, American technology, and as soon as they get some drivers with FIA Superlicenses, American drivers. All of the teams have started making components for the cars they designed in house already. For any team to buy Toyotas design would be very costly. You are paying for the design, plus you have to go back and remake parts

Jason Carter - Unregistered

November 13, 2009 1:00 PM

Also wanted to add that USF1 and the other teams are coming into F1 with realistic goals the first season. They aren't going to be competing for wins right away, so I am sure they are all aware that their car won't be on pace with the front runners. Give them a few seasons to develop their team and cars. Look at the big improvement of Force Inida this year. It takes time. Trying to buy your way to the front isn't the way to go. Toyotas 2010 car design could be like Renaults and Ferrari's 2009 designs...TERRIBLE!


November 13, 2009 1:02 PM

johnson, i was being sarcastic!!!! you know that i ave serious doubts about any usf1 car, thanks to mr windy!

steve. when manor was announced 7 months ago, wirth involvement was disclosed. i doubt that it needs to be mentioned every time there is mention of manor,although that is not very often!


November 13, 2009 1:05 PM
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@ Jason

USF1 aren't going to be competing for wins in their first season??? DAMN STRAIGHT! Their aims should be:
1) to actually make it to the first race of the season
2) to try and make it to the end of the season without going bust.
Anything else is a bonus. Personally, I hope they succeed and make it to 2011. They need to get a car sorted fast, sign some drivers (how the f*** can they go testing otherwise) and muzzle Windsor, who seems to be concentrating on PR to the detriment of everything else.

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