F1 » Angry Schumi rejects claims he doesn't race fair


He has been back in the F1 spotlight for barely a month, but already Mercedes Grand Prix 2010 signing Michael Schumacher has found himself on the receiving end of some rather uncomfortable questions...

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JohnsonsEvilTwin

January 26, 2010 3:37 PM

Rob
You keep harping on about cheating, yet I have pointed out to you on numerous occasions that McLaren(your dearly beloved) are equally guilty of this.

LIEGATE AND SPYGATE.

I suppose it doesnt count though because obviously McLaren are beyond reproach right?

We all know of Ferrari's "special veto" this isnt new. Disgraceful it may be, but it is equalled by McLarens antics.

As for the "gift", Ferrari didnt get that either.

Nowhere can I find that Max "gave" the double diffuser to Toyota Brawn and Williams.
The reality is 3 teams exploited a loophole that Ferrari and Mclaren didnt. cont'd

JohnsonsEvilTwin

January 26, 2010 3:47 PM

The FACTS are indeed very simple.

1) Ross Brawn asked for clarification of the diffuser rule to be made. June 2008
2) All the teams met in paris to agree on the rules which were due to be changed.
3)BMW disagreed with a few tweaks that Brawn asked for clarification on.
4)RULE REMAINS UNCHANGED

So when the (non diffuser)teams complained after the Aussie GP, McLaren abstained from the official complaint!
Why because it was WITHIN the law but outside of the spirit of the law.
So it was in fact legal! Max couldnt do anything about it.

You ought to head on over to F1 technical net to UNDERSTAND WHY it is legal. Very complicated stuff but it all fits within the dimensions set by the FIA!

rob01

January 26, 2010 3:49 PM

You need a serious reality check. Please check wiki for the diffuser scandal and you will find out that max rejected some diffusers and GAVE them to the NEEDY. He was looking to inject a two tier series and he showed you how it would work. Please tell me you do not think it was GENIUS(diffuser). That would disappoint me as you seem decently informed. The rule sat still for 15 years. All teams knew of the loophole. 3 got it handed to them.

Groagun - Unregistered

January 26, 2010 3:54 PM

7 World Championships, numerous records and untold $millions. With all of his success he should be living the high life and able to revel in accolades and praise. Instead, we have a man who is having to, and will always have to answer for some of his on track moves that were just plain dirty. I don't feel sorry for him at all. I was never a fan but did respect him for a time until some of his moves on the track, and then for some of them off the track. If your going to play the game you are subject to the same rules as everyone else and you will be judged as everyone else. Being champ brings extra scrutiny so live with it. Oh, and all of this scrutiny is well deserved and earned.

JohnsonsEvilTwin

January 26, 2010 4:10 PM

"However the diffuser rules are simply a section of the wider bodywork regulations, which also include sections which allow bodywork in areas not intended for the diffuser. Williams and Toyota have exploited these areas with their new cars. No doubt other teams know of these loopholes, but have yet to run their interpretations."

as per autosport

So its well known to be a loop hole!!!!

Alan D - Unregistered

January 26, 2010 4:13 PM

Ken: "he didn't support Eddie Irvine and took points from him and stopped him from taking the title."

Are you sure about that? Hakkinen won the final race in Japan in 1999 which meant he was WDC regardless of where Irvine finished.

rob01

January 26, 2010 4:16 PM

Luca said that Brawn must be the most arrogant person on earth if he believed in what he was saying. This came from Ferrari. The most loved and respected team on the grid. Endless holes and lines sounded great but Max should have ruled before the season started. In all fairness I would not have minded the piece had all teams been allowed to use one. And on a side note I gave you an agree on your other post. Let's keep civil as this diffuser has caused more headaches than a kid banging on a drum. And the DIFFUSER has been eliminated from COMPETITION for 2011. That says it all.

Alan D - Unregistered

January 26, 2010 4:19 PM

Rob, like I said, you have no idea what the veto power was. Under the old agreement, decisions had to be unanimous so all teams had an effective right of veto. When Bernie was trying to get them to resign, Williams and Ferrari signed the old agreement which any other team could have done. Ferrari didn't negotiate a right of veto. They simply didn't lose it in the way the other teams did. Other team bosses said they knew of this clause in Ferrari's contract, and when Max "revealed" it, they said it was no big deal and just Max trying to stir up the gullible and split the teams, (so he must be delighted with you harping on about it every five minutes)

Continued

dpm

January 26, 2010 4:19 PM

I'm not a schumi fan so when anyone says he won 7 titles I think they are wrong. He defininetley cheated himself to one and was helped to gain points by ineffective team mates in others.
However he did many titles and you don't do that by being slow even if your team mate gives you 2 points per race (the max he can give by finishing behind you) then you have to earn the others. So some years this did help but others not.
I thought the start striaght tatics where ok if your in front of the other guy sure move you have the line all the drivers in spot near him knew what he would do so why give in if you are there and someone puts thst move on you, you know it's coming hold your ground. cont.

K. Chandra Shekhar - Unregistered

January 26, 2010 4:23 PM

Which F1 driver is a saint?
Nobody.
Senna - How he crashes into other.
Alonso - Had Ferrari info at McLaren which at that Lewis was unaware.
Lewis - Liegate
Massa - Kimi nearly had to park his car to let Massa pass.

If we continue like this, we would have an endless list.
Yes Schumi did commit some mistakes. But lets move on. He is very talented. We already miss the likes of Senna, Michael Jackson, etc. We should be happy that he is driving once again and we can enjoy hardcore 2010 racing. Please think positively and let him race and win the 8th championship with his 100th win being with Mercedes would be a treat.

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