F1 » Ecclestone: New team woes prove shortcomings of budget cap

F1 commercial rights-holder Bernie Ecclestone has pointed the finger of blame for the struggles of the 2010 newcomers firmly at the feet of former FIA President Max Mosley's controversial and ultimately aborted budget cap

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paddockman - Unregistered

March 11, 2010 12:18 PM

Some confusion here. If there had been a budget cap, the new teams would have had the same budget as everyone else. Then it would have been Ferrari struggling. Ferrari fought the cap because they have always had more money than the other teams and want to keep it that way.

Without the new teams we would have 18 cars. The last year or so has shown this could become 16 or even 14 very quickly.

We should support the new teams for coming in despite having far less money than the rich teams. F1 needs new blood and they add a great deal of interest.
The probable speed differential is well within the limits which have applied historically.


March 11, 2010 12:45 PM

Follow more closely paddock... with the budget team you got to buy parts off the shelf. You could run and test all you liked. You could add any aero, run any hp,etc. This is what the fool was proposing.. It was not as simple as setting a spending limit. When FOTA crushed the stupid Max effort, he signed up teams ONLY running Cosworth. Yet, another effort by Max to give two tiers. He was force feeding the series. He finally got sent to the house for being an idiot.

Mike - Unregistered

March 11, 2010 12:46 PM

It is quite extraordinary that the three new teams are in Bahrain. F1 should be glad that people exist with the talent and determination to do what they have done. Without such people, F1 would wither and die. Their detractors, not least Montezemolo, should be deeply ashamed of what they have said and now walk down to the other end of the pit lane to thank and congratulate them for what they have achieved so far.

Paddockman - Unregistered

March 11, 2010 12:55 PM

Sorry rob01, but you obviously never read the regulations. You could not run "any aero", the off-the-shelf parts were the same for all and there was no requirement to run a particular engine (although the FOTA teams were reluctant so supply).

The new teams entered and had their entries accepted BEFORE the FOTA teams had adopted any particular position. The FOTA were still negotiating with the FIA long after the new teams had been accepted for 2010.

If you start off by getting all your facts wrong, small wonder your views are a bit strange!

Alan D - Unregistered

March 11, 2010 1:07 PM

I fear that tomorrow's practice sessions will be disrupted by HRT getting half way round the lap and breaking down, bringing out a red flag. We certainly saw far too many red flags caused by mechanical failures at the testing sessions but hopefully most teams have ironed out the glitches by now, but HRT has never been driven yet.

Calvin _

March 11, 2010 1:19 PM

Alan D, I fear that you may be correct, but I hope it isn't the case.

I believe that some rule should exist that any new car cannot start racing until it has attended, at least, one pre-season test session. Either that or set aside part of qualifying for the new teams, at the end of each session.

Alan D - Unregistered

March 11, 2010 1:36 PM

Calvin, I agree with the idea that cars (whether new teams or not) should have done a certain number of miles before they are admitted to a meeting, but the problem then is that testing is expensive. Testing isn't just about shipping your cars to a track. You've got to pay for the hire of the track, pay for all the marshals at each corner, pay for specialist medical staff and ambulances to be on hand in case of accident etc. That's why the FIA pays for group test sessions, to keep the costs down. HRT has had longer to work on its 2010 car than many of the current teams, but so far its just not met the basic standards expected of an F1 participant.

fish fingers - Unregistered

March 11, 2010 1:58 PM

Little B is out of touch, the new teams are for me an exciting journey to watch and I hope they arent snuffed out by Todt not carrying out the cap. The only reason Bernie is saying this is because he stands to lose money if the budget cap goes through. Personally I welcomed the idea although Max's figure of £40 mil was unworkable and damaged the premium brand image.. should have been double that at least. When the world is in recession and trying to look for ways to save the planet, F1 should set an example.

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