F1 » F1 'badly-designed' with no 'will to please the public'


Two of the sport's leading technical experts - former Jaguar Racing chief Tony Purnell, and esteemed ex-Lotus and BRM engineer Peter Wright - muse some of the root causes behind the soporific start to F1 2010

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. Lucifer

March 18, 2010 10:11 AM


“The formula is badly designed, (and) the will to please the public really isn't there. The sad thing is that there are solutions,"

No sh!t sherlock!!!!
I was hoping for a more technical reason (and solutions)from these engineers, but sadly nothing!

andrew.

March 18, 2010 10:12 AM

I completely agree with the comments about the sport being badly designed. What other form of motor racing has cars that cannot get close enough to each other to pass?

The teams, drivers and governing body is geared to making money rather than pleasing spectators. There is no will to change as F1 will still generate income on sponsorship and those that go to races to be seen (posers and creeps!) alone so why cater for the true fans? This is pretty obvious given the spectator numbers at tracks like Turkey. If F1 was about the fans, there would be more of the old style tracks in Europe and North America.

andrew.

March 18, 2010 10:23 AM

Just to add on more thing:


Thank you Max Mosley, you have killed F1 with your pedantic rules you sick, twisted, demented pervert. We want wheel to wheel racing which tests the drivers and their machinery to their limits, not economy runs and drivers nursing their f***ing cars!!!!

Calvin _

March 18, 2010 10:25 AM

andrew, it's not only MM's fault. BE has a huge part in F1's current state. However, from his point of view it's probably very well designed...to bring him in lots of money. Has he actually ever said that what he wants is good racing?

andrew.

March 18, 2010 10:34 AM

Calvin - Mosley was the one who was obsessed with cutting costs. In any line of sport a series cannot be the pinnacle of a sport but scrimping and saving here and there.

Maybe Bernie Ecclestone has had a hand in F1s demise, but my first comment is true, F1 is geared to make money for the teams and FOM through sponsors and hangers-on/posers. The true fans don't get considered anymore or else there would be real tracks not sterile Tilke designed rubbish. Look at the ruined Hockenheim track. If F1 was for the fans, there would still be a track that tested cars to their limits (how much used to be at full throttle?).

But I would agree that F1 is well designed to make money for FOM/BE.

robert s - Unregistered

March 18, 2010 10:41 AM

i think f1 needs to bring back some kind of ground effects. Gp2 uses it and look at the racing there. Also for 2013 i want to see big engines. If only the rulers paid more attention, and those surveys we do actually get noticed

Sandman - Unregistered

March 18, 2010 10:44 AM

The on-track stuff has plenty of issues, but here's a few ideas outside the actual race:
- open radios. All radio communication available to the public.
- no data collection during the race. All data must be communicated by the driver (and would thus be available for everyone to hear).
- No switching numbers every year. Make the cars on the same team be clearly differentiated, and numbers stick with the drivers.
- require drivers to speak to press on the grid before the race
- smaller pit crews, longer stops
- mandate ignition on the cars (who wants a stall to end the race for someone?)

Jay - Unregistered

March 18, 2010 10:51 AM

Increase the breaking distance and we would see more overtaking.

The problem with F1 is that the reaction speed required is so fast, and the margins of error so small that it's almost impossible for a human to react quickly enough. There's simply not enough time/space to overtake.

Also, simulations seem to dictate every decision. It's as if the race has been decided before a wheel has turned (with exception of driver mistakes or reliability). Ban pit to car radio and let the driver decide what's best to do in a race. Only need a simple signalling system to let the pits know the driver wants to come in (and for pit to confirm back).

Calvin _

March 18, 2010 10:51 AM

andrew, I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying that it's not all MM's fault. I hate what MM has done to F1 as much as the next guy. F1 is and should be the pinnacle of open wheel racing. The best of the best costs and if you don't have what it takes to be there, go try something else.

andrew.

March 18, 2010 10:59 AM

Calvin - I'm not disagreeing with you either! I agree that MM and BE are the culprits.

I'd like to think that Jean Todt's FIA can maybe help turn F1 around but I am not sure if 4 years is long enough to turn round several years of mis-management based on greed and personal vendettas.

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