F1 » Red Bull, Ferrari pass wing test, face more at Monza

Red Bull Racing and Ferrari will be able to use their controversial front wings at Spa, but face new tests ahead of the Italian Grand Prix.

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Alan D - Unregistered

August 28, 2010 9:08 PM

Copyright applies only to creative works, e.g. music, stories, photos, etc and only to the exact work. For instance, if I photograph Massa driving a Ferrari, I own the copyright only to that photo and any images derived from it. It doesn't stop you from taking your own photo of the same driver in the same car at the same point on the track.

I think you are thinking of patents. Teams can apply for patents on new technologies they invent but they would have to apply for a patent in each country where they want to protect their invention and its a long-winded process. It also has to be for an original idea. Making a flexible aero-part is not at all original. Continued...

Alan D - Unregistered

August 28, 2010 9:14 PM

If they did get a patent on something, then generally they have to publish full details of how their invention works so that other people can see exactly what the patent applies to. Also, they'd probably have to agree to license the technology to other teams for fees that the courts consider reasonable. If it was disputed it would take years in the courts to solve.

Within a sport like F1, its generally better for them to make sure their competitors get as little info as possible about how their cars work, i.e. the "trade secret" method of protecting their intellectual property.

Alan D - Unregistered

August 28, 2010 9:17 PM

I think the Ferrari Dossier case was a case of copyright violation. If the people involved had an original copy of the Ferrari document then I think that would have counted as theft, but because they took a copy of it at a local photocopy store, it was a copyright infringement.


August 28, 2010 9:36 PM

a lot of time and effort could be saved if they just had a meeting with newey and ask him to explain to them alone, likewise with ferrari, then they can make a decision,innovation shouldnt be punished in f1


August 28, 2010 9:38 PM

They passed because they changed the design. Ross and Whitmarsh say that it is clear the wings no longer brush the ground.

Whitmarsh says..
I wasn't that confident that it would be nailed, but we can all see the wings are in a different stiffness and positional domain than they had been in previous races for whatever reason," he said

Both Red bull and Ferrari have changed stiffness/system to wing. They have been caught. The speed on the grid confirms.

Alan D - Unregistered

August 28, 2010 9:54 PM

Rob, I saw one pair of shots which appeared to show the Red Bull wing still flexes a lot more than the Mclaren wing but I also had the impression that it wasn't flexing nearly as much as it was last race. But unless someone can measure it properly in a dynamic test then it is all a bit subjective.


August 28, 2010 10:01 PM

Ross and Whitmarsh seem satisfied but want further checks along the way. Monza will have a few more. It is clear that the speed differential has lessened between McL and the bulls. And Ferrari stiffened theirs to the point of moving backwards. So it looks as if the complaints from ross and whitmarsh paid off. The Bulls are still the fastest but not by as much. Not nearly the distance they held.

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