F1 » Team orders may breach Companies Act

A leading legal figure has warned F1 teams of another theat they could face in deciding to use team orders.

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Taz - Unregistered

August 31, 2010 1:00 PM


I see trouble ahead.

In no way shape of form should commercial legislation designed with our typical business govern motorsport. We have a tin pot governance already for F1 called the FIA.

That's bad enough without getting company legislation involved.

Alan D - Unregistered

August 31, 2010 1:19 PM

Taz, but when I complain about team orders, people say "Its not a sport, its big business", in which case it is only right that commercial law comes into play.

I think the FIA has handled this badly for years. After it banned team orders, the first time it heard a team tell its driver that their team mate was faster, they should have pulled the team into the stewards office and made it clear that they were on probation and that any attempt to send in coded orders was unacceptable. Instead, they've happily turned a blind eye until now they've got to get the big stick out and, whatever the outcome, its bad for the image of the sport.

Taz - Unregistered

August 31, 2010 3:25 PM

I agree.

Surely that means Jean Todt isn't doing a good job though, we've gone from an outspoken pervert to someone how doesn't seem to do anything.

daves - Unregistered

August 31, 2010 4:00 PM

I think the word "team" is very significant in the sport, it is not a race for individuals. Any pit lane laptop operator could hamper the cars lap times without asking the driver to move over if they changed the settings or gave inaccurate state of engine warnings to the driver to make him slow down. So no TEAM orders is impossible to police and therefore should be struck from the book. Anyone out there who thinks team orders will go away is delusional.

Calvin _

August 31, 2010 5:05 PM

daves, I may or may not agree with you. But the fact remains that whether we like it or not there is a regulation regarding team orders, so if you're caught breaking the regulation, you should be punished. Otherwise, why have the regulation?

The whole issue isn't straight forward. You say that it is a team sport so team orders are natural. To some extent, I agree. But what we don't want is something like Germany, where the whole fan base gets taken for a ride. There has to be some middle ground, like no team orders before mid season or some other timing, or until your other driver is out of the WDC title race. There has to be something apart from yes or no.

Alan D - Unregistered

August 31, 2010 5:15 PM

Dave: no TEAM orders is impossible to police

If you are British you've surely heard about the recent Cricket betting scandal. That's another rule that is impossible to police 100% but the ICC doesn't just ignore the issue. For example, it has banned phones from dressing rooms because players were using them to tip off bookies about who was in the team, when they were planning to declare etc. And if someone had used email and argued "but the rule said phones were banned, it doesn't mention email so what I did was legal", they wouldn't get away with it.

Vinnie Barbarino - Unregistered

August 31, 2010 6:17 PM

I don't think they should have ordered Alonso through but given that it is a team and a team order was requested to a team mate then the team mate should be held responsible for delegating a seamless pass. So if you are a F fan or any other team then you should be pissed at Massa because he messed things up for all other teams. His actions after words put the sport in disrepute. The team should be pissed at him...and so should you...I would be pissed at But or Ham if done so.. :-o

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