F1 » Jordan: Ferrari must pay for treating us 'like muppets'

Whilst BBC pundit Eddie Jordan contends Ferrari 'must pay the penalty' for the 'blatant' lack of respect it showed fans at Hockenheim, former F1 World Champion Damon Hill has urged the FIA not to 'throw the book' at the Scuderia over the team orders controversy

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humanoid1989 - Unregistered

September 08, 2010 1:29 PM

Eddie is bang on with this comment. Team orders should be properly banned, motorsport is there for our enjoyment after all. Without us the fans, there would be no 'business' would there?

James Montgomery

September 08, 2010 1:31 PM

For once I agree with EJ, Ferrari did treat us like muppets after the race by insisting it wasn't team orders when it blatently was.

I don't mind team orders... as long as they don't do it in such a pathetic manner like Ferrari did.... Half of this would have been avoided if Smeddly didnt make it so obvious... then keep on appologising to Massa at the end of the race.... so why people are praising him for keeping his mouth shut... I don't know why because it was him who more or less started this whole mess!

Eitherway Ferrari shouldn't be punished on how its affected the audience... they should be punished on plain and simply, breaking a rule!

Martial Law - Unregistered

September 08, 2010 1:39 PM

I doubt FIA will do what it had to do i.e. take away both the drivers and team points in this race. We see Jean Todt the king of team orders as the judge and with that all impartiality is thrown away!

Sam - Unregistered

September 08, 2010 1:42 PM

EJ is just trying to promote himself as a pundit "who's not afraid to voice an opinion" or who is "appalled" at such actions. Balance or proportional reaction will not promote those making the statement.


September 08, 2010 1:50 PM

Seem to recall that EJ was defending Ferrari on the BBC coverage, saying you cant stop team orders so run with it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't bother keeping the recordings F1 once I've watched them.

ANDYC - Unregistered

September 08, 2010 1:56 PM

Team orders aren't good for racing fans but they happen and are difficult to police. Either they need to ban team orders or add to the rule buy saying a driver can't intentionally let his team mate past. Team order's have always been around and pre war and in the 50's were accepted. Also, Eddie Jordan has a habit of trying to make a point of giving strong views and being contravertial, quite often he is wrong. And he was as big on team order's in his time as a team owner as anyone, Belgium 98' as one notable example.


September 08, 2010 2:08 PM

Once again, just plain get rid of the radio voice communications in the car. Teams might then still have team orders, but it will be much more subtle, such as the font, size or color of the pit board, or some secret character or hand signal, such as in baseball. If it gets blatant, the scrutinizers will video it. Getting rid of the radios also keeps the public from hearing embarrassing comments from frustrated drivers. Radio voice communication hurts racing (none in MotoGP!). Give drivers plenty of data directly from the car if they can handle it, but not filtered through the pit. Let the pit have all the radio-transmitted data from the car they want, but no way other than a 1m X 1m board to communicate with the driver.

Make driver contracts available to FIA for inspection, so clauses limiting driver-determined "success" can be revealed and removed.

Another radical way would be to insure the driver who gives way to his teammate will profit from it. Button's point-swap suggestion is

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