F1 » Horner: WMSC ruling on Ferrari has set a precedent

Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner reckons F1 teams are now effectively free to apply 'illegal' team orders to their heart's content - with the worst that will happen to them for doing so a paltry $100,000 fine

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September 10, 2010 1:31 PM

Oh shut up already, the precedent was set years ago, for example Kovalainen letting Hamilton through in 2008, or Raikkonen letting Massa through in the same year.

Can we please get on with the racing and keep this incredibly dull topic behind us?


September 10, 2010 2:17 PM

You can see Horner and Marko scratching thier little chins now......Hmmmmm now we know the price for getting Vettel back to #1 status......If only somehow we could get Webber to cooperate.....Hmmmmm......Yeah.. it would also take a lot of cooperation from some guys out of the team, like Hamilton, Button, Alonso, etc......Let's try it next year after Webber is gone. Let's build it into the budget, or the driver salaries, OK?


September 10, 2010 2:19 PM

there's only one solution to the problem as far as i can see
and that is make the rule look like this:

"any team found to be giving team orders (i.e. telling one driver to pull aside and let the other driver pass in a coded message or otherwise) will have all championship points stripped and incour a fine equal to the ammount of winnings given to the team up to the end of the previous championship round"

but with mr ferrari himself Jean Todt at the healm of the Ferrari Iinternational Assistance thats never going to happen.


September 10, 2010 2:44 PM

The teams or most of the teams want the ability to issue team orders. 5 drivers with chance at WDC so you will for sure see more team orders as we move to end of season. I think FOTA and FIA will work and resolve team orders issue for next year. This year if you have 100K go ahead and use them at will.

ah seng - Unregistered

September 10, 2010 3:35 PM

easy lar...... by the ruling, every one can use team orders as they like.
engineer: "vettel, you are slower than webber today. do you get what i mean?"
vettel: "no, what?"
engineer: "you idiot, please decrease throttle on next corner exit?"
vettel: "why?"
engineer: "..."


September 10, 2010 3:37 PM

Just going by what Horner said.

Formula 1 title contenders now have an effective carte blanche to use team orders over the remainder of the season if they are willing to stomach a $100,000 fine in the wake of the FIA verdict on Ferrari's German Grand Prix actions.

That is the view of Red Bull Racing's team principal Christian Horner, who thinks the FIA's decision to not hand Ferrari further sanctions for what it did at Hockenheim even though it is sure they were illegal team orders means a precedent has now been set.

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