F1 » Hispania to benefit from Williams gearboxes in 2011

In a tie-up that could prove pivotal to Hispania Racing's future, Williams have confirmed that they will provide the struggling F1 2010 newcomer with gearboxes from next season

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November 02, 2010 12:47 PM

Ok now its up to this joke outfit to produce a decent car. Does this also put an end to the HRT Toyota tie up??? Even so they will still be well of the pace next year because they havent even turned an eye to 2011s car and even more importantly are they developing their own car??? or are they getting a sister company to do it again?


November 02, 2010 1:06 PM

rbr. that was old news, hence my comment yesterday that hrt would not be buying toyota. but i suppose that they could buy a year old tub, and try to fit a cossie, and modify it for kers etc! they wont get dallara to build another car for them, as dallara got badly stung over payment. i dont think that they have any manufacturing premises or capabilities, and apparently no design engineers. i think that they will be taken over, during the off season, possibly by epsilion.


November 02, 2010 1:53 PM

Your right there richard. HRT has no equipment or people to build their own car. As for the 2010 toyota that will be very uncompetitive next year and quite a lot of work would have to be done to get Toyota tub to work with a cossie. Obviously the gearbox and engine is no problem. But this whole scenario shows that HRT is out of it depth and is pulling any strings just to have a package. Does this team really have any goals to compete in f1 and should it even be here?


November 02, 2010 4:30 PM

Turnip, yes the Williams gearbox will most probably fit and be a match to the Toyota RVX-09 engine, or at least can be adapted as Toyota was “unofficially” using Williams gearbox knowhow “technology” when they were supplying Williams with engines. But Williams said in its statement that the HRT deal will extend for the life-cycle of the current Cosworth engine technology.


November 02, 2010 4:49 PM

All gearboxes (transmissions) currently in use in F1 are “should be” compatible with all current f1 engines in use, the differences would be the mounting “bolting” to the engine, but the biggest obstacle will be the suspension mounting points and so its geometry.
Last year Ross Brawn went through all this in having to adopt the Honda gearbox “transmission” to the Mercedes engine at short notice.


November 02, 2010 5:47 PM

While we are on who is going to use what and who is coming and going here is some more of the same.
A report in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper says Volkswagen group is not going to enter formula one, it also said that Red Bull and mclaren had expressed their interest in being supplied engines by Volkswagen.


November 02, 2010 9:17 PM

sunny. any inline box should be capable to being modified ok, but it could put different stresses on the adapted blocks, and engine. surely blocks may have to be modified to line up mounting points etc? hardly worth the effort.

i see that austin gp may now be in trouble as well, unlikely to be completed within the time frame. speaking of u.s., eddie and rob are very quiet these days. pitty, they added to the forum.

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