F1 » Hunt hits out at Group Lotus F1 move

David Hunt attacks Group Lotus' F1 move with Renault

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December 10, 2010 1:02 PM
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I dont see any damage to the Lotus name, just the opposite, increased media exposure!!!

F1 can cope with having 2 teams with same or similar brand names: Red Bull and Torro Rosso or McLaren/Mercedes and Mercedes/Mercedes.

Mercedes leaving McLaren and forming its own team wasnt perceived as negative move, Lotus Group action is understandable as well.


December 10, 2010 1:15 PM

hunt had a "name" that was basically worthless, and he found a sucker to buy the rights to the name. he is obviously anxious to prove that there actually was value to the name, to substantiate the fee that he received. but ,cobalt, the whole episode is damaging the the lotus HERITAGE. and even the new merc team, is not looked on as a continuation of the original merc heritage.


December 10, 2010 1:30 PM
Last Edited 1885 days ago

I dont think anyone is fooled that there is a connection between present Lotus teams and the original Team Lotus. That team ceased to exist, closed book, nothing can touch them or harm their heritage IMO.

Lotus Renault made it clear they are here to promote their road/sport car range. Only Hunt and Fernandez dwell on the past.

FooAtari .

December 10, 2010 1:30 PM
Last Edited 1885 days ago

What a shame to see what has become of the Lotus company and brand. You can't have two Lotus teams, it's just wrong. Chapman will be turning in his grave. But that's what happens when companies go into Liquidation and the rights are sold off left and right...

I don't see this as anything like McLaren/Mercedes and Mercedes. As far as I know Mercedes now no longer own part of McLaren? they simply supply the engines? These Lotus teams are racing under what fans will see as the same brand but operated by two completely different organizations. It will be confusing and to be honest a bit of a mess.


December 10, 2010 1:40 PM

For most of the year Mercedes owned one team and owned big share in another. My point is that it is not uncommon to have one brand involved in two teams. It wouldnt be that big problem if Lotus name was used by two teams.

Buck Bundy

December 10, 2010 3:22 PM

I think things are different when it is just the second part of the name - everyone knows thats just the engine builder.

With the prospect of 2 teams racing as Lotus-Renault, then people might understandably think they are running the same chassis.

Perhaps they should be Lotus Genii-Renaults and Tune Lotus-Renaults, if that helps?

Diarmuid - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 3:22 PM

Richard, its actually incredible. Everytime i see nonsense and babbling drivel posted here it is by you. You really dont seem to have the first clue about...anything to do with F1.

Hunt owned the rights to the Team Lotus name. This is not a worthless brand by any means. Just because it was not used in recent years doesnt render it worthless. Team Lotus is what Colin Chapmans team was called.

Lets for a moment say that Scuderia Ferrari left F1 and FIAT sold the name to Stefano Domincali. If in 10 years he wanted to sell that name to a new team who were entering F1 and then FIAT came back trying to enter with Team Ferrari it wouldnt work. The name was sold. They dont own it.

And proton are in an even weaker position as they have NEVER owned the Team Lotus name or any rights to do with Lotus f1.

Diarmuid - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 3:24 PM

From what i can see its a case of passing off by Group Lotus.

And yes...we both know that neither of these teams are anything to do with the original real Lotus team. But legal naming rights dont care about that.

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