F1 » FIA reveals F1 engine, team orders and tyre changes


F1's governing body the FIA has unveiled a raft of regulation changes for the coming seasons, from the abolition of the team orders ban to the introduction of 'greener', 1.6-litre turbocharged engines

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Doris Nutscrubber. - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 8:19 PM

@Mark

If there doing away with team orders why bother having a second car.
Its race fixing be it formula 1 or cycling,and race fixing is wrong.
I don't care if it as been going on for years.
people have been getting murdered for years doesn't make it right though does it.
So i won't buy that old chestnut.

@Richard
As for mclaren the case against mclaren wasn't proven by the race stewards or the fia whereas the stewards found ferrari guilty.
you can bet your life if they could have proved it they would have proved it after all mclaren are the team most hated by the fia and feared by ferrari.

Mark _

December 10, 2010 8:40 PM

Doris - perhaps you do not understand cycling as it is never seen as race fixing. Cycling like F1 is a team sport. It is not possible to win without the support of your team. Now if you throw the race so that someone from another team can win (JV giving Mika H his first win) then that is seen as race fixing.

Like I said you would need to get rid of the championship in order to get rid of team orders. The other option would be to make it illegal to overtake your team mate. Otherwise it is impossible to know if team orders have been used.

Mark _

December 10, 2010 8:47 PM

Doris - correct me if I am wrong but I don't think that the FIA even investigated McLaren for using team orders. Hence the bias. Heikki and DC have made it pretty clear that McL have used team orders. I guess that you are one of those that only sees fault in Ferrari and prefer to stay in the dark about the team that you support. I realize that some people have trouble with things being blatant but one team being better at disguising the breaking of a rule does not make it right either.

chris - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 8:49 PM

Total and utter joke, 1.6 4 cylinder engines , why not use old ford escort engines? what a laugh, this will no longer be formula one. just a new lower formula. Formula one is not meant to be green, can't people understand that. Its like trying to run a 747 on a spitfire engine. They have lost the plot!

richard

December 10, 2010 8:58 PM

i have said that i dont like turbo engines, but with this discussion, it reminds me that we did of course have a 1.5 turbo before, and many have posted saying that this was the greatest era of f1, but there again, the bhp was unlimited and we saw outputs of twice what is now proposed! so maybe we should do away with all the gizmos, do away with the rev limiter, do away with fuel restrictions and let the fastest cars win.

motomoto - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 9:05 PM

F1 lost most of my interest when they dropped the V10,, Now a wormy, peaky, torque-less four pot is the spec? ,,not to mention the "rally car" engine-sound that will permeate the pitts. It is truly a sad day for F1.. On the bright side,, anyone with a record in the books is safe, because these new golf carts won't circulate any quicker. I need to find something faster to watch next year. Do they still run the Indi-Cars?.. I know!,, Australian V8 super-cars are faster.

Doris Nutscrubber. - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 9:11 PM

@Mark

To be honest with you mark,i'm one of those people that think f1 would be better without ferrari.
They have the fia in their pocket and they are always whining and bitching to the stewards about something yet when there caught out they act as if they've done nothing wrong.
And before you ask i am not a mclaren fan so thats not why i dislike ferrari.
I'm one of those fans that like to think a race is a race and that the use of team orders is wrong.
ok mclaren didn't get done if you or anyone else think they used team orders in 2010,thats your problem not mine maybe mclaren weren't so blazen about it like ferrari were.

justice trousers - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 10:12 PM

Back to the future..old 4 pots (haven't seen anything about them being turbo'd).
There is nothing wrong going back to 4 cylinders,yes the sound ain't so good but it is possible to gain more horsepower and i take it the weight reduction will be taken into account.
As for the chassis side of things well...get rid of wings as they are of little benefit to a road car anyway.
As long as they don't get rid of the V8 supercars from Oz i will be happy as there is a championship that is well run, exciting and consistently informative.Great commentators and really awesome driving.
Perhaps they will put F1 on as a support race!

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