F1 » FIA reveals F1 engine, team orders and tyre changes


F1's governing body the FIA has unveiled a raft of regulation changes for the coming seasons, from the abolition of the team orders ban to the introduction of 'greener', 1.6-litre turbocharged engines

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107SS2009

December 11, 2010 1:44 PM

Yes the reporting that the intermediate tyres are back confused me a bit at first, it goes to show that reporting even by sites like Auto sports have to be sorted out by readers sometimes.

JohnDier1

December 11, 2010 5:36 PM
Last Edited 1476 days ago

Dangerous Dave and Spagettieddie, I also am of the vintage that can remember the 1.5l turbo engines of yesteryear, and I can also remember the magical sound of the turbo whine they made and the backfires from the exhausts as the decelerated sharply and the excess fuel flared off in the exhausts, bring them back sooner than 2013 if they can. Some of you will also remember that they ran both a turbo and normally aspirated championship within the overall championship for some of the turbo era. Alain Prost always maintained that getting rid of the turbo engines was a backward step for the sport. Some folk were giving out about the restriction on injection pressure, sounds like a bike hike upwards to me if i am reading the specs right. Sorry getting into this thread late, too busy trying to get rid of lingering snow here still!!

arcuid

December 11, 2010 5:45 PM

So they have decided to lift the ban on team orders. No doubt the teams are a bit more free to exercise that option without some fear of recrimination. It kinda begs the question of is that racing?

richard

December 11, 2010 6:52 PM

dangerous dave. the bmw 4 turbo gave 1500bhp in quali, and 1200 bhp in race. but as sunny has pointed out, fuel consumption will not be altered by the bhp, so the fuel flow reg, will help keep the bhp down to the same as today, around 800bhp. unfortunately we wont have a free-for-all, but i like the suggestion that if bhp can be evened out, the na 2.4 should be allowed as well. we have a two tier championship at present, so we can cope with another

spaghettieddie

December 11, 2010 7:15 PM
Last Edited 1476 days ago

@JohnDier and Richard, Right! This would be good for the sport "me thinks". Those were great years and like you said Richard its obvious they will not let them "run what ya brung" but.....it would be nice to see the two engine formula's running against each other(They can try to figure out that formula) John, BIG FLAMES!!! HA! ED

107SS2009

December 11, 2010 8:50 PM

I can understand the enthusiasm which is leading some to agitation/restlessness, but this time it will not be anything like the free for all 80s turbo era who's power outputs (1500bhp from 1.5l turbo with a boost of 5.5/6 bar and using exotic fuels meant 1000bhp/litre and lasted only for 5 laps) including out and in laps.
This time it will be 1.6 litre turbo restricted to a power output of approx 800 BHP which means about 500 BHP/LITRE, which in turn is replacing a 2.4l NA v8 producing approx 800BHP which means about 333BHP/LITRE after being restricted with club level technical restrictions.
It is very rear but this is one of a time where I tend to agree with BE WHEN HE SAID, WHY CHANGE IT? If the politics and the appetizers (green, beneficial/relevant and so on) are not considered/left out, why make engine makers undertake about 100 million expense for an engine formula change that is only really meant to strengthen some ones position, BUT REALLY ITS ALL THE FAULT OF BE AFTER ALL.

Alan D - Unregistered

December 11, 2010 11:43 PM

KGBVD: "the only thing F1 MUST do is stay relevant to the auto industry"

It has become quite a mantra of the FIA that F1 needs to be relevant to the auto-industry, repeated like it is some self evident truth, but I have to question it. I don't hear anyone saying dragster racing needs to lose its parachutes and nitro to make it more relevant to the car industry, or that speedway bikes need brakes and gears to make them more relevant.

Do the fans want F1 cars to be like the cars they drive? I've known plenty of people who don't have cars at all yet are rabid F1 fans. What about the people putting money into F1? Does Vodaphone, Santander, RBS, Red Bull, Marlborough think F1 needs to be more about the motor industry and less about the businesses they are in?

jaybond80 - Unregistered

December 12, 2010 1:49 AM

Just 4 cylinders? What the s**t?? FIA should have freed up the max no of cylinders, just like in the eighties where we have 4, 6 and 8 cylinders turbocharged engined F1 cars competing side by side. The early 90's F1 also was fabulous with those V8, V10 & V12. Just had enough of spec engine configuration we had for so long!! Come on FIA!!

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