F1 » VW encouraged by engine moves

Volkswagen has admitted that the change of engine planned for F1 in 2013 opens the door to a potential involvement in the top flight.

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KGBVD - Unregistered

December 13, 2010 3:13 PM

Excellent! Now in 2013 you'll have Mercedes, Ferrari, Cosworth, Renault, McLaren, and Porsche as engine manufacturers. I'd put money on Honda returning too. A golden age dawns my friends.

Tealeaf - Unregistered

December 13, 2010 6:55 PM

Eh a golden age? What's that the weakest engines for over 35 years, look at it like this: 2013 and engines in F1 has 600bhp WOW! Can't wait til we see 'droning' sounding cars struggling to break 200mph even at Monza! Another victory for Moto GP who's going back up to 1000cc so for straight line performance they'd be eating F1 for breakfast, and watch all the bike *****s milk this!


December 13, 2010 8:04 PM

@tealeaf you obviously don't remember the last batch of turbocars they sounded like god on his vinegar strokes and raced with at least 50% more BHP than the current cars manage- and as for "struggling to break 200mph" I was there in Austria 1986 when Derek Warwick broke the timing beam at 217mph, in a 1.5 litre four pot turbo. And also, Moto GP bikes acceleration from 50 to 140mph has been demonstrated to be superior to F1 cars already.

KGBVD - Unregistered

December 13, 2010 9:24 PM

@ TeaBag: you know MotoGP is a different sport right?

Let's follow this one through, F1 is also: slower to 60mph than an NHRA dragster, crap on snow compared to a WRC, and useless on sand compared to a rallyraid. An F1 car would also be **** in a Sprintcar race or a RedBull Air race...

A lot faster pit stops in F1 than Moto GP though... So they score points there.

What else shall we compare? Kangaroos to porcupines?

Bryan G - Unregistered

December 13, 2010 11:28 PM

The big difference with this new turbo formula is that the engines will be rpm limited - they will also have to use standard fuel - the 1500cc turbo engines ran on special brews loaded with all sorts of chemicals.The horsepower will be well down on the previous engines - the old turbo engines could produce well over 1000bhp in qualifying trim.The noise will be nothing inspiring - I have heard Indycar turbo engines and they sounded dull - the turbo takes energy out of the exhaust gases and quietens the noise.I thought F1 was trying to cut costs - a 1600 turbo engine with KERS is going to cost a lot more than a normally aspirated V8,it will probably be more unreliable as it will be more highly stressed and will have to dissipate more heat.I think this engine formula is a joke.

19Krpm - Unregistered

December 14, 2010 12:46 AM

VW makes good cars but 4cyl scooter engines don't belong in F1. That is the end of F1 for me, for real. All in the name of the pseudo green movement. F1 is motor racing for pits sake: it has to be noisy, absurdly powerful and after all, its only about 20 some cars racing for 2 hours every other week? Realistically, has anyone stopped to think how little F1 cars contribute to global emmissions? This is the most absurd decision and it's going to destroy f1. I would bet that the combined car fleets of Bernie and staff, JEan Todt and his FIA staff produce more emissions in one month than the entire F1 teams in one season?? Stupid 4 cyl engines: they sound a race like go-karts. And if that wasn't enought, they'll bring the KERS curse back!!

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