F1 » Bahar pleads for Team Lotus to be allowed to 'rest in peace'

As Lotus Renault GP and Lotus Racing increasingly lock horns in the embarrassing F1 naming row, Group Lotus CEO Dany Bahar has called for the iconic Team Lotus to be permitted to 'rest in peace'

Sort Comments: Oldest | Newest

Jonno - Unregistered

December 16, 2010 4:28 PM

It's just such a damn shame as whatever money Lotus Group put into the sport in 2011 they have already made this a negative publicity excercise.

Who knows what really happened but airing their laundry in public was pretty amateurish and as a masive Lotus fan I'm just really dissapointed with the way this has been handled especially by Lotus group


December 16, 2010 4:48 PM
Last Edited 1684 days ago

I shall quote Tony Fernandes (before a few of you start bashing him):

"There was no such thing as an offer," Fernandes told AUTOSPORT about Bahar's claims. "There is an understanding that Lotus's involvement with Renault is worth £20 million, which would therefore mean that I was seeking £60 million - which is a complete fabrication.

"We never got past an initial dinner meeting. Dany Bahar and Riad Asmat met and that was it. No offers were ever exchanged.

"We were very open to equity sharing, working together and other combinations. We wanted it to work for the good of the Lotus brand - and it made sense to combine.

"I can state categorically that there is no way we were three times more expensive."

"How Eric Boullier can say we have fooled fans - I think that is an insult to fans. Fans will make up their own mind. If we are not up to the mark they will not give us any support. You cannot fool anyone.

(continued on next post)


December 16, 2010 4:50 PM
Last Edited 1684 days ago

(continuation from previous post)

"This will be my last statement on the matter and hopefully some common sense will arise.

"All we wanted to do was bring Lotus back to racing and build a good relationship with Group Lotus and I think that would have been the best solution for everyone.

"We never wanted to bring these matters up in public, and when it (Lotus sponsoring Renault) came out we kept a very low profile about it.

"But there have been so many accusations that we have had to defend our position. If Group Lotus value the brand then we should try and find a solution to this. We are open to that."


December 16, 2010 4:52 PM

The best thing should have been to leave the Lotus name to rest in peace (in its ex glory) it is impossible to believe that anybody out to promote commercially anything he produces under an ex name have respect for the name.


December 16, 2010 5:01 PM

How would it better for Lotus to just bow out of F1. Yes, this is bad publicity etc. but the team and legacy didn't die with Chapman, so someones got to make the most of this iconic name. The team after Chapman died had nothing to do with Lotus, so why is this any differant.

Bzzzzt - Unregistered

December 16, 2010 5:55 PM

'no judge in the world could stop me promoting my brand in F1'

Well here's your problem, Dany. Your hubris seems to be stuck in the carburetor. Lotus, whether it's Lotus Cars or Team Lotus isn't your brand. It's Colin Chapman's. Earn it, be a good steward of that legacy.

DTGM - Unregistered

December 16, 2010 6:38 PM

This whole mess is just sickening. I already thought Renault was a shady bunch, then again it makes sense that a new bunch of shady characters would join them. In my mind Group Lotus/Proton have shot themselves in the foot, a wasted investment, because they have created nothing but ill will, and this PR campaign is actually making things worse. The more they say the more Fernadez looks better.

Proton owning Lotus basically kills the brand anyway and this is basically putting the nail in the coffin for western buyers.

MrX - Unregistered

December 16, 2010 6:55 PM

The ARROGANCE!!!!!!!!! Who are Bahar, Lopez and Bouillier to tell Team Lotus to rest in peace? Just because they didn't have the brains to buy Team Lotus, they get all sourgrapes and expect Team Lotus to RIP? Why don't they take their FAKE French Lotus/Renault to the nearest grave and let it RIP instead.

Ressa - Unregistered

December 16, 2010 7:04 PM

DTGM: You are absolutely right!
Danny Bahar, Eric Boullier and Proton are making things worse for themselves. If you notice all the bad mouthing is coming from these people. Neither Fernandes nor any Team Lotus guys are giving bad/negative comments about the Lotus Renault F1. I think if VW bought Lotus, they would be on par with FERRARI, LAMBO AND PORCHE. PROTON owns LOTUS for 14 years now. They have gained nothing from it for the benefit of their cars and vice versa. After 25 years in operation, PROTON have downgraded themselves from a car manufacturer to car assembler by rebadging the Mitsubishi Lancer. Instead of concentrating on each others production cars they are sponsoring an F1 team. Y dun they make gd cars first...

Page 1 of 3
1 2 3  »

Join the conversation - Add your comment

Please login or register before adding your comments.

Although the administrators and moderators of this website will attempt to keep all objectionable comments off these pages, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the poster, and neither Crash Media Group nor Crash.Net will be held responsible for the content of any message. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. If you find a message objectionable, please contact us and inform us of the problem or use the [report] function next to the offending post. Any message that does not conform with the policy of this service can be edited or removed with immediate effect.

© 1999 - 2015 Crash Media Group

The total or partial reproduction of text, photographs or illustrations is not permitted in any form.