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Marussia Virgin Racing will compete under a Russian licence in its second F1 season.

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Alan D - Unregistered

February 04, 2011 11:23 AM

I must be living in the past. I remember feeling outraged when teams started selling their souls to sponsors by letting them change the colour of the car. Then they started selling additions to their names, and that was even worse. I shuddered every time they spoke of the Camel Williams, such an unpleasant image, but at least the original team name was still in there somewhere. But now you can sell your nationality as well it seems, all in the name of sponsorship. Is it just me, or does anyone else find that slightly distasteful?

Jonty! - Unregistered

February 04, 2011 12:26 PM

Right, so a car designed and engineered by Brits using a British engine, built in England, and driven by a German and a Belgian is classed as Russian now because of a sponsor/backer?!?!
Same deal with RedBull! Think about the guys in the factory listening to someone elses anthem.


Buck Bundy

February 04, 2011 12:50 PM

I think likening this to Red Bull isn't right.

Red Bull is owned by an Austrian. It is Dietrich Whatshisname's perogative to change the nationality, as did Benetton after buying Toleman (though not immediately) and then Renault after they took over the team, and now Genii(?) have changed it back to British. Yes, the people in the team might not feel much afinity to the supposed nationality, but when it is just a sponsor or backer then that is a whole lot worse, and yes, distastefull.


February 04, 2011 1:16 PM

Marussia is not just a sponsor, they bought into the team (hold shares). they have every right to race as Russian team if thats what the team decided.

Lotus Renault is Luxemburg owned, 100% by Lopez/Genii but is registered as British team. It is up to the owners to decide, theyve paid for the privilege.

Alan D - Unregistered

February 04, 2011 1:19 PM

I know there is zero chance of Virgin actually winning a race, but its the principle that matters. I think the Red Bull example above is a good one. Maybe the time for anthems for teams is over. Yes, play the anthem of the winning driver, but the team? If you are not respecting the people who actually build the car then it seems pointless. If you are only doing it for the sponsor's benefit, its even more pointless. You might as well forget the pretence that its about honouring the nation and just play the sponsor's theme tune that they use in their advertising. Just think, you could then have the drivers looking solemn on the podium while someone plays The Birdie song.

ed - Unregistered

February 04, 2011 1:21 PM

From the Guardian, Wednesday 16th Dec 2009:

Richard Branson on Tuesday said he is proud to be involved with the last fully British team in Formula One.

Comparing Virgin with other British teams including stalwarts Williams and McLaren, Branson told the Guardian that his Yorkshire based outfit is the "last 100 percent owned British team".


February 04, 2011 1:48 PM

@Alan D, IMO whoever is paying, financing the whole team, is making decisions such as what flag they race under. Engineers, drivers, factory workers etc. are payed to do their bit.

@ed, 16th Dec 2009? thats history.

Soozo - Unregistered

February 04, 2011 2:08 PM

So the hopes of team 'Dinno Racing' finally fail along with my support for what seemed to be a local team..........but how many players at MU come from Manchester. perhaps we should just grin and bear it but it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

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