F1 » Berger calls for 'simpler' F1


Gerhard Berger says F1 shouldn't worry about difficult technical problems to a lack of overtaking and should take a simpler approach

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snail - Unregistered

March 31, 2011 2:37 PM

Aerodynamics from massive wings cause the turbulence which prevents overtaking.Solution?...drastically reduce the size of these "barn doors" and rely more on mechanical grip. That way we could have exiting racing and it would be wonderful to see cars "drifting " once again.

Ronald McDonald - Unregistered

March 31, 2011 2:50 PM

I agree with Gerhard CheeseBerger, there isn't actually much wrong with F1. The title battle is always interesting these days. People talk like there was some kind of 'golden age' where there was lots of overtaking all the time and that simply isn't the case. Sure some of the circuits are a bit dull *cough* Bahrain *cough* Barcalona *cough* but mostly it's fine. Could do with not changing the rules every season though and yeah the DRS is gimmicky nonsense and should be dropped.

MonktonGaz - Unregistered

March 31, 2011 3:33 PM

He says that he doesn't see why people go on about overtaking.

Well, it's because I want to see action, not a time trial.

I agree with him about the need for simplicity, though.

Calvin _

March 31, 2011 3:58 PM
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Simplicity is an objective that sounds easy, but given the multimillion budgets of F1 teams and the top end engineers that each team has, it isn't easy to keep things simple because they'll all be looking for a way to beat the others.

But yeah, sure, get rid of the huge front and rear wings, DRS, KERS, testing bans, annual rule changes, engine and gearbox life limits, bring back ground effects, turbos (or even twin turbos) and normal brakes and maybe we'll have better racing.

Yirmin Snipe - Unregistered

March 31, 2011 4:08 PM

Removing wings wont solve the problem. Assume that all the aero parts are removed... what will happen? Well qualifying will set the fastest cars at the front and aside from the start where its possible for someone to make a faster start, the faster cars move to the front the slower cars fall behind... How do you expect passing to happen? It wont because all the cars are so equal that no cars truly dominate in any one area, be it braking,acceleration or grip... they all use the same tires they all weight the same amount... In a spec series you only see overtaking because of shuffled orders at the start or because some drivers are just inconsistent as hell. You don't see as many drivers in F1 having brain farts so their is less chance for a driver to take advantage of mistakes.

Sorry but the only way to make the racing more entertaining is to open the rules on the cars and let the builders go wild... allow unlimited testing so cars could change more during the season... and allow AN

daniel hall - Unregistered

March 31, 2011 4:34 PM

its pretty simple there was lots of passing back in the 80s less aero means more passing also drivers are scared to put on a hard pass these days cause they get heavily penalized if there is contact i say take some aero grip away and do away with penalty's for racing incidents and problem is solved at barely any cost

MR

March 31, 2011 5:27 PM

Formula One, and before that Grand Prix cars (Mercedes, Auto-Union etc) has ALWAYS been about cutting edge technology. And Monza aside, overtaking has usually been scarce. What was always a spectacle was being able, with the naked eye (rather than "slo-mo" replays) to see a car visibly on the limit drifting through a corner. Restricting technology needs very careful thought, to avoid "dumbing-down" the series" status. Freeing up the present ultra-restrictive rules, and allowing more freedom of design would, inevitably, generate more interest and spectacle, as cars will look different, have different characteristics. Look back to the designs of the '70s - the variety, since then has been steadily stifled. Just think what Newey could produce, given that freedom.

richard

March 31, 2011 6:40 PM

yirmin, "Sorry but the only way to make the racing more entertaining is to open the rules on the cars and let the builders go wild... allow unlimited testing so cars could change more during the season... and allow AN "
now go to the start of your post. you correctly said that there can be no passing when the fastest car starts at the front and the slowest at the rear. that is correct, but the above quoted para, would leave us in exactly the same situation. fastest at fron, slowest at rear, result...procession!
reverse grids, or a draw for grid position, might inject some interest?

rubberbandman - Unregistered

March 31, 2011 8:11 PM

When I review my vast collection of F1 videos it seems to me that the majority of overtaking in earlier decades (70s on) was due to either a missed gear shift or a lack of mechanical grip due to chronic tyre wear. Most positions were gained through outright car failure and not overtaking! Pirelli are attempting to make the tyres degrade more quickly than the Bridgestones ever did, but other than that we're stuck with semi-automatic gearboxes and ultra-reliable cars. When it was originally conceived, wasn't the amount of KERS power, and the time it was available for use per lap, meant to increase each year for the first 3 years? Anyways... how about no qualy (but 2 races per weekend to compensate) with grids in reverse championship order???

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