F1 » Parr: New engines will be good for F1

Williams chairman Adam Parr comments on the reasons why an engine change in 2013 will be good for F1

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April 19, 2011 11:48 PM

I am personally a big fan of the Turbos. I love the days of Senna & Prost running on turbos. I don't think anyone was really complaining of the sound back then?

I will say making F1 green is a bit of an oxymoron. The cars racing is not the problem. It's all the energy spent in development, energy to run the wind tunnel, transporting all that equipment, flying updates out to the teams everyday of the weekend. F1 will never be "green"


April 20, 2011 3:49 AM

I am neither in the 18,000rpm camp or the 4cyl camp BUT if F1 goes down this road of wholesale engine/Kers changes in this economic climate then they will risk ending up as big a basket case as MotoGP.

When money is tight leave the specs' alone(or only small adjustments) otherwise the smaller constructors will bail.

WSB has shown everyone how it should be done in a recession.

Move with the Times - Unregistered

April 20, 2011 6:15 AM

Nearly all, if not all, the highest performance cars utilise forced induction so why wouldn't the pinnacle of racing? I remember the F1 turbo days and those cars were damn fast and pushing some ridiculous high horsepower figures. I also like that fact that they were a lot more tricky to drive with enormous levels of boost...especially in the wet. F1 use to be about innovation but these days it's more about compromise.

Bryan G - Unregistered

April 20, 2011 8:11 AM

The problem is that the new engines will have mandatory rpm and boost limits,on top of which the exotic fuels that were used in the old engines will be banned also.The fuel was a major factor in the massive power outputs of the 1500 engines - without the special fuels which permitted high combustion pressures without detonation they would have been a different animal.

Just Observing - Unregistered

April 20, 2011 10:14 AM

Turbo technology has moved along so far since the last turbo era that I believe you'll easily see the power level reached and with the sort of reliability we are used to seeing from the current v8's.

Sports car racing is already getting 450+ Hp from stock block engines in lmp2 and 550+HP from 2L (with far more restrictions than F1 will have)in LMP1.. and they are all designed to last a lot longer than the "treat with soft gloves" F1 engines


April 20, 2011 2:26 PM

I'm a dinosaur, and would much rather return to V8's, V10's, V12's and even, if they could make it work, an H-16. But times change and we have a very different world to the one even as recently as the 60's. So if we have to have 1.6 turbo's rather than NO F1, then that's the least worst option.

DW - Unregistered

April 20, 2011 3:55 PM

Seems most people on here know little about engines, especially their sound.

Since when does cubic inches equate to type or volume of sound?
I raced with a guy who made a Mustang V8 sound like a rotary, just with clever exhaust plumbing.
In MotoGP, Lorenzo & Spies ride an 800cc Yamaha that sounds like a NASCAR V8 leaving the pits - thanks to it's big bang firing order.
Ducati make a production 1200cc 2 Cylinder engine that makes my skin tingle.
Subaru make a 2L boxer engine that does much the same.

I have a 8.4L Viper & a Humvee from military surplus ... according to most people on here, if I start them at the same time, the world will go deaf!


April 20, 2011 5:26 PM

The true and the hardened F1 followers can never except the FIA proposed for 2013 engine for the simple reason that what is being proposed is a single make/design specification engine which will not matter who manufactures it all engines will be of the same make/design/configuration/power/and revs (rpm).
I will repeat for the benefit of those who waste their time and space over here about engine sound/turbos/green/economy/cost/road car relevant and a host of other divisionary/diversionary adjectives thrown in mostly by the FIA that the solo aim/intention/objective/purpose of the FIA about all this is to eradicate once and for all any and all dependence on the manufacturers.


April 20, 2011 7:09 PM

i have a feeling the engine changes wont happen as more people in f1 seem to be against it including bernie and the biggest drawcard ferrari and all they need to do is say well ferrari will not compete under these rules and that is it there will be no change

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