F1 » Ground effect abandoned as teams plan for 2013

A FOTA technical proposal to rival that of the FIA has been put forward for approval ahead of the 2013 F1 season.

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James Montgomery

May 09, 2011 11:42 AM
Last Edited 1736 days ago



They have been reducing aerodynamics drastically since 1995 and look what happened! Cars that couldn't stay close together!

The only reason racing has been close this year is due to DRS and high degrading tyres!

I wish FOTA would just shut up and let the FIA decide what will happen, they are the rule makers after all! They set the standard, the "formula", the teams should be working to those standards and make the best out of what they are given, not moan like a bunch of premadonnas of what should happen, they have been doing this for the past few years now and look what we have, the rule makers aren't allow to make the rules anymore!

FOTAgraph - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 12:18 PM

I personally think that the cars shouldn't have very much aero at all. They should rely on mechanical grip with the aid of a small front and rear wing. The cars should also have stupidly powerful engines like they did in the late 80's/90's. Then we would see whos the worlds best driver...... and it would create better harder faster racing for everyone

whist were on the subject of great racing i admit go of on a tangent, they should get rid of some of the overseas races like bahrain and abu dhabi and race at some proper tracks like the A1 ring in austria.
ohhh the memories


May 09, 2011 12:41 PM

ground effects have no relevance to the modern car, and should not be encouraged. the ebd was in effect a ground effect aid, and was removed. the emphases should be returned to mechanical grip. get rid of all the aero and trickery and as others have said, have a spec rear wing and a plain spec front wing. current front wings are totally over the top, with all their elements.
the teams have a right of veto over the proposed engine change, and are meeting on 14th may. lets hope that they exercise their right of veto!

Neil - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 12:49 PM

Bernie Ecclestone needs to be replaced as the head of Formula 1 sooner rather than later, his argument against smaller more efficient engines that people come to the races for the noise, is followed by his statement that to reduce the carbon footprint of Formula 1, they should allow less people into the circuit!! - Sorry Bernie, the cheese is sliding off your sandwich, you're arguing against yourself now!!
Time to retire mate and let someone younger and more in touch with the needs of a modern business empire take over.


May 09, 2011 1:18 PM

As a huge motorsport fan who dreams of that elusive lottery win and running teams across various sports it still amazes me that people point the 'green' finger at the race cars/bikes themselves.

The problem is the entourage of trucks and vehicles that follow the whole circus around!
How much diesel do McLaren use in a year?
I bet it's an awful lot more than the race fuel in the cars...
How many sets of tyres do cars go through?
5 sets in yesterdays race- how's that for carbon footprint!

More mechanical grip, less aero, longer lasting tyres and a limited number of support trucks and personnel.


May 09, 2011 1:42 PM
Last Edited 277 days ago

Jon, I believe like Bernie you miss the point. It is not the actual carbon footprint of the F1 circus that is the issue. If it was you would simply confine the racing to Europe and not have the whole circus flown to remote parts of the world in big cargo jets which burn many tonnes of fuel per hour.

I believe it is the broader public and political perception of the sport which is what people like Jean Todt are seeking to address. If the sport is seen to be a cutting edge development platform for high performing, low emission, efficient 4 cylinder turbo engine technology, then it can defend its value and utility in a World increasingly vexed by the heavily politicised issue of carbon emissions.

Yirmin Snipe - Unregistered

May 09, 2011 3:07 PM

Cut down on the attendance by 15%? Well here is another even more green option for Bernie.... ELIMINATE all track attendance and give away the TV rights to anyone that wants them for free... that would be green for everyone except Bernie's wallet.

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