F1 » Fewer fans at GPs would make F1 'greener', says Ecclestone

Dismissing notions that he and FIA President Jean Todt do not get on, F1 ringmaster Bernie Ecclestone proposes a way for the sport to become more environmentally-friendly without downsizing engines...

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May 12, 2011 5:43 PM

There is nothing wrong with what Crash net reported not even with what BE said or have been reported to have said, the trouble is with some people's interpretation of what was reported, as I said they come here fast head first with guns blazing but with no target.
It isn't correct to automatically shoot down someone's sayings just because you don't like him, it can mostly lead you to look utterly stupid.


May 12, 2011 6:48 PM

Honestly, it's not the four cylinder turbo per se, it's the rules specification.
Four cylinder, 83mm piston, 12k rpm, 600hp which will not be able to be used normally say at 60% of the race like in Turkey because of a mandated fuel flow restriction which the FIA is hoping will gain the fifty percent reduction in fuel consumption, 30 coming from producing 150 less hp and 20 from the flow restriction.
And greens here comes F1!

oldF1fan - Unregistered

May 12, 2011 8:51 PM

Bernie Ecclestone misses the point (probably intentionally). The purpose of going to 1600 cc turbocharged engines has more to do with relevance than just "green" issues. As well as that, those of us that were F1 fans in the late 70s and 80s when 1500 bhp (during qualifying) BMW 4-cylinder 1500cc turbos were running never considered that they weren't exciting! Bernie is well aware of that as he managed Brabham, the team that ran those engines. The other interesting point is that the engine blocks for those "genades" were the same as the production blocks for the road cars!


May 12, 2011 8:56 PM

oldie. why the change from newbie? those bmws were even from second hand cars with 100,000km on them. they were also stored in the open and staff were encouraged to relieve themselves over them. i kid you not!

oldF1fan - Unregistered

May 12, 2011 9:04 PM

I'm well aware of that. The reason for using old "seasoned" blocks was that all of the casting stresses should have gone out of them by then so the new dimensions after machining would be more stable.

andrew. - Unregistered

May 12, 2011 9:05 PM

richard - I don't believe that oldf1fan is newbie. The writing styles are completely different. Oldie uses correct grammer and spaces after full stops and commas. Newbie didn't. Neither did Newbie ever comment on matters concerning engines, or at least I never saw them comment on engines. I may be wrong though.

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