F1 » Horner: No individual is bigger than the team


Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner reaffirms his conviction that the F1 2011 World Championship leaders made 'absolutely the right decision' in controversially instructing Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber to hold position in the closing stages of last weekend's British GP at Silverstone

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Rubik - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 12:34 PM

Given the recent rule change that now allows team orders, it would not have changed the teams point tally at all, if Webber was waved past Vettel, since Webber was the faster of the pair.

Of course that would have helped Webber's cause, but it's obvious that nobody at RBR wanted that outcome...

Swoosh

July 13, 2011 12:34 PM

Team orders are allowed now. Like it or Loath it.

But Horner needs to respect people's intelligence and stop coming out with this nonsense. Maybe he didnt personally, but his boss wanted Vettel second and with the current rules they are within their rights to do this.

Horner looked a bit torn at the end of the race, I dont think he enjoyed giving the order but he needs to stop making excuses.

Harvey - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 12:36 PM

RBR need to have a bit of forward thinking - actions like this aren't helping Vettel's reputation, which while obviously not as important as pursuing the WDC, needs to at least be considered by his employers. As has been intimated by others, by employing team orders when only 3 points were in question, or to prevent the chances of a crash, this only puts into question Vettel's achievements when they shouldn't be. It's highly unlikely Webber will catch Vettel, but by doing this, they are giving fuel to those who say that Vettel is only winning because he has the team behind him at the expense of his team mate. One of the main criticisms of Schumacher's all time standing, whether you agree with them or not, is that he had Ferrari fully behind him (and not his team mate), and this is in danger of being repeated here.

cmc1 - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 12:53 PM

Enough. This is just such rubbish. Let them race. Don't let them race. Im more interested in seeing 2nd, 3rd ....10th in the championship. 1st place was determined well before the first race of the season.
RBR are not going to ruin my 35 years of watching F1 anymore. Champion drivers are born not manufactured.
And there are plenty of champions driving in F1 then there are championships won.

signups46 - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 12:54 PM

Further prrof (as if it were needed) that it has been a long time since F1 was actually about the racing. Its a business. Theres little racing left in it. It has been desecrated from the the good days of Senna, Mansell, Prost, Alesi, Patrese etc etc where you could actually tune in to the race and 1) understand the rules that werent manically overcomplictaed 2) where there was at least a possibility that it wasnt only one of 6 cars that could actually win the race 3) and you saw real racing, close, edgy and exciting. F1 has lost its way and doesnt deserve its fan base. They dont care about the spectical, and would rather punish drivers like Lewis who show driving heart than upset the business applecart. Shame on you.

Ian - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 12:56 PM

What about giving the order "Seb, Mark is going quicker than you. Make sure you do not both end up in the fence if he tries to overtake you." A similar message to Mark would have allowed them to race and would have put responsibilty for not wiping out on the supposedly "professional" drivers.

Taipan - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 1:04 PM

So where will Webber be next season?

Ignoring a team order is a most effective way to lose your job. Silly boy Mark, I thought you were wiser than that. Its the sort of move you'd expect from Lulu.

Stu - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 1:10 PM

"Sebastien,Mark is faster than you,Can you confirm you understand the message"

Works for Ferrari.

For a fun loving team they are becoming boring.

Rubik - Unregistered

July 13, 2011 1:18 PM

Can anyone imagine the former heroes of the sport being told to "maintain the gap" Senna, Mansell, Stewart etc?

I don't think so, but maybe it's because they were heroes of the "racing" era and not the contractually bound puppets we have today.

We're constantly being told that "this is a show" but from the majority of messages posted in forums worldwide on the issue of race fixing, IT'S RACING THE FANS PAY TO SEE.....

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