F1 » BMW refuse to comment on Heidfeld DTM speculation

BMW is remaining tight-lipped regarding speculation placing Lotus Renault GP F1 refugee Nick Heidfeld in its new DTM operation from next year...

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Graham - Unregistered

September 06, 2011 1:27 PM

If Heidfeld goes to DTM he joins another ex-F1 driver Coulthard looking to extend his career past its sell-by date. At least David won something in F1, whereas Heidfeld merely drove round and round.

Makroobs - Unregistered

September 06, 2011 2:43 PM

Heidfeld vs teammates
2001 Heidfeld 12p Raikkonen 9p
2002 Heidfeld 7p Massa 4p
2003 Frentzen 13p Heidfeld 6p
2004 Heidfeld 3p Glock, Pantano 2p
2005 Heidfeld 28p Webber 24p *Before Heidfeld was replaced in Italy
2006 Heidfeld 23p Villeneuve, Kubica 13p
2007 Heidfeld 61p Kubica 39p
2008 Kubica 75p Heidfeld 60p
2009 Heidfeld 19p Kubica 17p
2010 Kobayashi 11p Heidfeld 6p
2011 Heidfeld 34p Petrov 32p *Before Heidfeld was replaced in Belgium.
So it makes 8-3 to Heidfeld, which is very impressive actually considering who has been his teammates.


September 06, 2011 3:05 PM

makroobs. thanks for pointing out the results of nick. there appears to be a number of doubters as to his ability. he was even up for the mclaren seat, until uncle ron parachuted in another driver. nicks problem was that he didnt stick up for himself, just got into a car and drove it, as fast as it would go. re heidfeld and petrov, also factor in that nick didnt start the season with lotus renault, and was thus handicapped.
dtm could be a good move, as it is highly competitive. at brands, all cars were within .65 secs!

50 Cent - Unregistered

September 06, 2011 3:05 PM


2006&7 Kubica's rookie year
2009 - Kubica 4dnf's to Heidfeld's 2. One of those DNF's (before his engine blew up Kubica was in the 3rd place.

2001 vs Raikkonen - you should consider the facts. Prior to this he raced in only junior open wheel categories (mainly kart) which makes that 3 point difference a nail in a coffin for somebody like Heidfeld.

JJJ - Unregistered

September 06, 2011 7:00 PM


2008 Canada...Heidfeld despite being on a heavier fuel load is ahead of Kubica in the earlier stages of the race...lets his teammate pass cause Kubica is on a two stopper. Loses the race by coming up two or three seconds short on Kubica after Robert's last stop.

Team play costing him his only real chance of victory in F1 and BMW's only victory of their last stint in F1.

That said, I've long been an advocate of Heidfeld's talent (beating his generally respected teammates most of the time), but the 5 races for Sauber last year were so so...and this season wasn't great whatever the circumstances. I just think he's over the hill now and missed the boat.


September 06, 2011 8:17 PM


I remember when little Nick crushed the competition in German F3 and was the hottest young talent on the planet and was getting support from McLaren/West. Then being the test driver at the time, most thought it was an after thought that he would be driving for McLaren once David or Mika moved on - especially after he won the F3000 title. But as you said, Uncle Ron pushed Nick aside for another driver (it was Kimi right?). I wonder how Nick would have turn out if he was given the McLaren seat that he was groomed for.

50 Cent - Unregistered

September 07, 2011 1:28 AM

3xJ - I'm not sure why you brought 2008 but since you want to talk about Canadian GP here is my take - Kubica finishes 2nd in Monaco. At the track we could hear team talking to Heidfeld not to slow down Kubica, who as you noted was light, Heidfeld heavy. Moments later Kubica passed Heidfeld. I would probably call it a team strategy, not team orders at that stage of the race, as at that time there were few others still in contention at that time and Kubica had one more stop to make. Interestingly, Heidfeld let Ferdi through as he was advised by his pit that fighting Ferdi would slow him down.

50 Cent - Unregistered

September 07, 2011 4:56 PM

On the second thought - Heidfeld should have been dropped from the roster in 2008. Had they signed Vettel, while he was a test driver for them, things could have been much different for BMW Sauber.

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