F1 » Webber: IndyCar situation 'not right'

Mark Webber says IndyCar can learn from F1 after the death of Dan Wheldon

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Tealeaf - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 5:05 PM

@ Pam

Your assumptions are just way out of line, the safety of an F1 car is like easily 20 years ahead of these Indycars, I don't agree with these small ovals but when they do crash it's not head on like you said.
In fact I'd like to bet that F1 cars are so much stronger that in that same situation Wheldon would have survived more often than not if he was sitting in an modern F1 car.

Andrew Long

October 20, 2011 5:13 PM

1.5 miles is not a small oval - its pretty standard nowadays. Small is Phoenix, Richmond, Loudon and the Bullring.

Racing on unbanked ovals must be the way forward and taking steps to stop the bunching and improving the catch fences.

Taz - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 5:30 PM


I could counter your crude guestimates but I'd rather show a bit of respect and not discuss the crash, he only passed away 5 days ago.

Rob - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 5:40 PM

I have to disagree with the comments that Indycar has to learn from F1 with regards to safety. For many years Indycar/Champcar have pioneered or adopted safety practices that have taken years for F1 to catch up - full course cautions with safety cars, pit lane speed limits, mandatory adoption of the HANS device, medical facilities at the track, training of medical crews and safety workers, extraction of drivers from cars, diagonsis and treatment of injuries. Yes F1 has caught up, and Indycar has been fairly stagnent, but any open wheel car travelling 90degrees vertical with the driver facing an obstacle (wall or catch fence) is not going to end well.

kirk66 - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 5:47 PM

I like Indy racing. But I hate ovals for these types of races. There's no reason they can't run the INDY 500 then race the rest of the season on road courses and street courses for the rest of the season. The cars are great turning left and right? So, utilize that. Indy cars on ovals is about as exciting as NASCAR. Sure you can pass. Sure there's a strategy but it's hardly exciting. Passing opportunities are greater on road courses and the racing takes more skill than oval racing.

swingaxle8 - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 5:50 PM

I live in the States and I'll tell you people here don't know talented racing. NASCAR is such a joke. It's nothing but a corporate run 3 hour long commercial. The drivers and commentators can't seem to go more then 30 seconds without mentioning sponsors. Oval racing is boring. I tell people here that if you do want real racing watch F1 or even Indy when they are on actualy circuits and not ovals.


October 20, 2011 6:13 PM

Too late, Indycar is already boring.
The cars look like recycled 1980 F1 cars, and the road tracks in the US/Canada are BORING!!
There are only 3-4 tracks worth talking about in North America IMHO (Watkins Glen, Mosport, Laguna Seca and ?) and that is not enough to sustain a good road racing series. So they end up on "Street Tracks" that are cobbled together with no thought about good racing or safety. Toronto Indy comes to mind as a crappy dull road track that seems typical of the type.
That's whay IZOD had to go onto the ovals, first to try to get some brain-dead NASCAR fans to watch in the first place, and second, because they ran out of tracks to race on.
Motorsport in the US has always been only about drag racing and ovals. That makes some sense because those driving styles are closest to what North Americans experience every day on the way to work (High Speed limited access Hi-Ways and stoplight racing), but any culture that think the Camaro and Mustang GT are real cars is

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