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Mark Webber says IndyCar can learn from F1 after the death of Dan Wheldon

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Mark _

October 20, 2011 6:15 PM

Let's not use this tragedy as an excuse to trash Indycar. You need to remember that Dan loved this series and chose it over a test drive in F1! As I recall some famous bloke died last year in the Aussie V8 series. Where was the outrage and F1 is superior comments then?


October 20, 2011 6:21 PM
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Point taken.
I just get frustrated at the lack of understanding that I run into everyday here in the USA/Canada. Maybe once the USGP has had a chance there will be an uptick in comprehension. The media is mostly to blame, F1 news is buried on back pages, if it's published at all. And Speed TV is basically NASCAR all day every day. So the average Joe has zero exposure to turning right.

50 Cent - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 6:35 PM

"I have to disagree with the comments that Indycar has to learn from F1 with regards to safety. For many years Indycar/Champcar have pioneered or adopted safety practices that have taken years for F1 to catch up"

RobO - Really?? So you really think that an Indycar today is safer than F1? Think again.


October 20, 2011 6:37 PM

With respect to the safety features of an Indy car versus that of a F1 car, since the chassis manufacturer (Dallara) also produces cars for many FIA classes, it is likely that the majority of the safety features they apply to the other classes are present on the Indy car. The construction methods and material advancements will also be present. Unfortunately in open wheel racing, there are no minor accidents. Fatalities will occur no matter how controlled the environment is, what safety features are implemented, or at what speed one is traveling. There will always be that one unforeseen, impossible scenario, that will end up happening. All racing is dangerous and deaths will occur at every level, from karting to F1. All we can do is learn from situation and take the appropriate steps that hopefully will prevent it from happening again in the future.


October 20, 2011 6:41 PM

droog. as a motorsports fan, i can see that there is a skill needed in oval racing. a skill that is different to what we on the mainland are used to. so i wouldnt knock it. apart from that, indy cars do race on road circuits. they were at motegi, and isnt surfers on this weekend? the drivers can of course turn left as well as right.
surprisingly, as another poster has commented, there is probably more emphasis on safety than in f1.
nobody likes a fatality in any sport, but i wouldnt use one accident to pillorise indycar.
the problem at this race, was simple. too many cars on a small track. that scenario can be fixed.

Rob - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 6:48 PM

50 Cent - I don't think Indycars are less safe than F1 cars. F1 has enhanced driver safety by emasculating the tracks, or should I say car parks, they run on. Not something that can be achieved on any oval. Also, wheel to wheel racing (apart from this year and last) had been designed out of F1 in the pursuit of performance not safety. Indycar has many 150mph+ accidents every year, with relatively few injuries. I do agree that Indycar *racing* is less safe than F1 due to the nature of the racing. Dan's accident is a sad reminder that you cannot become complacent on safety, but this should not be at the expense of the essence of the sport.


October 20, 2011 7:03 PM

Again, point taken.
Skill exists in any form of sporting activity. And watching the best at work is rewarding in any sport. I even enjoy Track and Field when the Olympics is on. My sore point with Indycar has not much to do with this tragedy, it is with some comments that I have seen from people that take the opportunity to display total ignorance about F1. Maybe I'm too sensitive or something.
But please excuse my frustration. 99% of the people that I interact with on a daily basis would not know what to do with a clutch if their lives depended on it. They think that NASCAR is the pinnacle of Motorsport and that there is no difference between Indycar and F1 because they "look the same".
Seb's WDC victory never even made the local news radio sports highlights on the Monday drivetime the day after.
Living in a desert.

Mark _

October 20, 2011 7:18 PM

Most sports have a level of risk. This year in professional cycing there was at least one death and one life changing injury. We saw a luger die at the last winter olympics. Even locally, there was a death at a youth soccer match and a near death at a youth baseball game. Of course steps should be taken to minimize risk but these things can and do happen.

50 Cent - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 7:23 PM

RobO - I'm not sure about Indy cars being less safe. An F1 car "dry" (no fuel or driver) weighs around 520 kgs, an Indy car around 700kgs. that is an enormous amount of extra mass (kinetic energy) to factor into the accidents of Indy cars travelling at higher speeds on an oval.

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