F1 » FIA moves to limit engine-mapping in 2012


The FIA is to introduce new restrictions on what teams can do with engine-mapping in 2012, as the ruling body seeks to stop the use of engine exhaust gases for downforce.

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victor - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 11:25 AM

Despite what Richard and Sunny think engine mapping to improve aero is illegal as the movable throttle governs the downforce - furthermore engine mapping sounds crap.

107SS2009

October 22, 2011 12:26 PM

Victor, you are totally out of order, there are three items pertaining to the subject in causation namely the diffuser, the exhaust blowing into or over the diffuser and the manipulation of the exhaust gasses (pressure/volume), the first item (diffuser) is fixed (not movable) the second item (exhaust gasses) are moveable the third item (engine mapping) is a fixed item as far as I am concerned the F1A/GOVERNING BODY never said that the system is illegal so nobody and that includes YOU can say it's illegal, when a team finds a loophole in any rule and operate within that loophole it cannot be accused of operating illegally.
Yes you have a right for your opinion as much as everybody else but that doesn't means you are right when firing from the hips.
Now read this, I personally happen to have never liked the engine mapping thing, I was and am against it, this because I believe that the loophole found is being stretched a bit too much but I cannot follow you and say it's illegal.

107SS2009

October 22, 2011 2:18 PM

Victor thanks for the complement, re engine sound/s, the engine sound I have heard when still a schoolboy on 15 May 1950 at Silverstone (start up and demonstration run only) will never/can never be replaced/forgotten, I do not know how old you are but all the same I will leave you to Guess what it was from.
The next two most impressive sounds which am sure will never be replicated came from the Matra MS80 V12(1969) and a sports car racing FERRARI V12.

renegade - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 2:49 PM

Why do they not go back to the rules of a few years ago that placed the exhausts in the regulations.

If they are placed where no gain can be made then the mapping issue goes away. Or totally outlaw the use of exhaust gas created downforce in case someone comes up with a way of channeling the gases.

There are plenty of ways of preventing the issue before it becomes a problem.

richard

October 22, 2011 8:03 PM

victor. so every car on the grid is illegal, as all use controllable throttles! nice one! i am sure that all the teams will be surprised when the races are all classed as null and void due to the cars being illegal.
all cars are scruitineered before a race and ALL have been found to be legal.
what gives you the authority to say otherwise?

victor - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 9:17 PM

FIA technical delegate Charlie Whiting outlawed the use of so-called hot-blown diffusers but then postponed the ban.
But Hispania said if their use was not stopped before Monaco they had no other choice than to make a protest.
"This is illegal," continued Kolles. "You cannot influence the aerodynamics by hot exhaust gasses or any moveable devices.
"We have studied this very carefully. The point is it is not corresponding to the regulations.
But an official protest may force the FIA to confront the problem before the teams gather in Monaco.
Richard FIA backed away from the ban because Renault RBR claimed the ban would make their engines unreliable hence Kolles also backed off.

richard

October 22, 2011 9:29 PM

victor. kolles claimed it was illegal, but fia decided that it was NOT. the simple exit of exhaust gasses to the rear of the car, affects aerodynamics, as it fills a low pressure pressure zone behind the car.. incidentally, rbr use renault engines but do not use hot blowing, but they d use cold blowing!

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