F1 » Button: We have to be better prepared

Jenson Button has vowed that McLaren will come out fighting from the first test of the winter after three years of frustratingly slow starts.

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November 27, 2011 1:02 PM

McLaren won a race and scored a podium over the first two races of 2010, they won a race and scored two second places over the first 3 races this year so where does this idea of loosing the title because of bad starts to the season come from?
Has blaming the car just become de rigueur at McLaren since the little bejewled one joined the team?

MP4-12c - Unregistered

November 27, 2011 1:22 PM

Taipan, you talk utter rubbish. Everything JB says is right. The RBR car has been fantastic and SV flawless. LH & JB never had the car to match him. Look at SV's stats this year, they are brilliant. Stick to watching "come dancing" you know jack about F1


November 27, 2011 1:31 PM

Interesting point MP4, as an obvious sage of all things F1 perhaps you would be good enough to explain to a simple minion such as I which of my previous facts were wrong?
Or are you just of the belief that McLaren have a God given right to have the best car at every race?

Just_Observing - Unregistered

November 27, 2011 1:37 PM

Lies, damn lies and statistics... quote whatever you like it doesn't change the fact that OVERALL the McLaren was not been the same pace as the RB's in the early part of the season and hasn't been a genuine contender until well into the 2nd half the season... and that's all Button is really saying

alan - Unregistered

November 27, 2011 1:49 PM

it's quite a a simple explanation, when there is a car that is between a half and two seconds a lap faster in qualifying, if you translate that into race pace a 70 lap race it is between 35 seconds and 2 minutes difference if you consider the average lap is about 1 minute 30 seconds it is a big challenge to beat that driver.


November 27, 2011 2:04 PM

Alan, WOW between .5 and 2 seconds faster in qualifying, I certainly didn't know that. I had some strange belief that the average gap this season was 0.3 of a second. But I'm basing my argument on fact rather than pure fantasy, which is always a bit boring.
I'm also pretty sure that Button was leading the drivers championship after 4 races last year, which kind of backs up my argument that blaming their season on bad starts is absolute nonsense. But I know "jack" as previously suggested...


November 27, 2011 2:11 PM

blzbub. yes, i call it the seb factor! just like the alonso factor a few years ago.

but to those who say that mclaren do not have a car as fast as the bull (with normal driver!), can you provide some statistics to prove this? and dont just quote lap times as these are totally variable.
the simple fact is that each car has circuits where it is fastest on a lap, and really it all balances out in the end, and then it is up to the better driver to prevail

Rob01 - Unregistered

November 27, 2011 2:15 PM

Snake, so what you are trying to say is that Vettel has won all of these polls and races with a car that is no better than a McLaren. Matter of fact you have actually tried to say that during the last third of the year that the McLaren is the faster of the two. All the while TRYING to make Vettel seem like a god. Give me a break. The Red Bull has been the fastest all year, one team had to steal its front wing it was so fast. Doesn't matter the difference in qualifying speeds/times.


November 27, 2011 2:30 PM

Rob, Perhaps is you actually read my post you would understand the point that I was making, but I accept you you may have difficults with such tasks so I'll break it down into simple terms for you.

The article blames poor starts to the season for McLaren's lack of challenge to RBR.

I pointed out that Button was leading the championship after 4 races in 2010 and that McLaren won a race and was runner up in the other 2 over the first 3 races this year. So how can poor starts to the season be blamed, when in fact they actually started very strongly?

Is this point really rocket science to some of you??

Oh and it's Mr Snake to you.

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