F1 » Retirement far from Webber's mind as new Challenge begins

Mark Webber gears up for return of Pure Tasmania adventure race by insisting that he's not about to turn his back on F1.

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December 07, 2011 4:10 PM


Your probably right, another year under the cosh from seb won't motivate him, he seemed a shadow of himself a lot of the time this year.

Problem is, Sebastian is the perfect size for an F1 driver, Mark is a tall bloke, it was fine when DC was his team-mate as they had to be more generous with the packaging of the car, not saying thats a factor, just an observation.

FreeJack - Unregistered

December 07, 2011 9:16 PM

That's something people always forget, Taz - Webber outweighs Vettel (and most of the competition, for that matter) by almost 25 pounds, which is a whole lot of weight in an F-1 car...and yet Webber still had way more fastest laps than anyone else, this season. These suggestions of retirement are silly. Mark Webber is consistently one of the fastest guys on the grid, every Sunday. Here's hoping that he finds the speed he needs in qualifying to get some pole starts, next year.


December 07, 2011 10:00 PM

@ Freejack.

The weight issue is not as important as it was in 2009. Since then the minimum weight of the cars has been raised form 605kg in 2009 to 620kg in 2010 and 640kg in 2011.

The initial problem arose when KERS was introduced but weights were unchanged.

The extra 35kg added means would virtualy eradicate any weight advantage of the driver.

Personally I see no reason for Webber to retire, he's had the best two seasons ever. I wonder if people suggesting that this seasons results not being as good as last years would also argue that Alonso, Hamilton, Button etc should have also retired after they have one year that isn't as good as the previous.

Rob01 - Unregistered

December 07, 2011 10:44 PM

With the balance of the car dictated by regs the weight difference between drivers is very helpful. Vettel can play with more ballast. Mark on the other hand has said he cant lose another pound.


December 08, 2011 4:15 AM

@Rob01 - That is my understanding as well. The all up weight is not in fact the hindrance, it is the ability to use ballast in the car for balance that is the issue, i.e. Vettel can and Webber can't, meaning that Webber's car is at a disadvantage before they even turn the... err... external starter motor.

@FunkJ - the increase in minimum weight has not alleviated the problem as that extra weight is taken up with KERS and potentially also DRS hydraulics. I would also hazard a guess that the monocoque or safety cell is also now heavier due to increases in safety (namely penetration) requirements. Take a look at some photos of Webber from 2008 and compare them to now. He his a LOT skinnier than he used to be.


December 08, 2011 5:58 AM

Sometime ago the bigger (physically/heavier drivers were saying that they were at a disadvantage because of their weight, the FIA increased the minimum weight and now a driver who has been totally trashed by his team mate still has that disadvantage, may be MW should lobby for the smaller drivers to have tungsten strapped to their ****.

Matt - Unregistered

December 08, 2011 1:42 PM

For fairness, the answer is pretty simple. Dont allow a choice in ballast movement - have weights that must go under the seat of the lighter drivers.


December 08, 2011 1:46 PM

You are wrong richard.

f1 rule 26.1b

After the race every classified car will be weighed. If a driver wishes to leave his car before it is weighed he must ask the technical delegate to weigh him in order that this weight may be added to that of the car.

@ 1jez

KERS was introduced in 2009 and minimum weight increases have occured since then. I doubt that the DRS weighs 35kg.

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