F1 » New line-up for Toro Rosso in F1 2012


All change at Toro Rosso for 2012 with Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne both getting seats

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Trent - Unregistered

December 15, 2011 2:11 AM

@Nanbawan, thanks for that, I didn't read that at all. Good to know. Wouldn't be the first time a journo has misquoted someone!

@MattShctick, I totally agree. Guys like Reubens and Trulli have been great, but they've had their time and now they should move on. As for Massa, don't even get me started! I can not believe that he has ever ended up in a Ferrari - the only thing he's ever done consistently behind the wheel since starting with Sauber is spin out.

GS - Unregistered

December 15, 2011 2:18 AM

I'm sorry...they say they want to blood new young talent...Alg was 21 and seb 23/24?! Must be my old age but to me that is still very young and there careers might be over! Don't get that. I think Vergne is massively overrated and will get found out...then we'll see Marco eating humble pie

sodesu

December 15, 2011 6:27 AM

GS, exactly. And to MattSchtick, that is utter rubbish. I just yesterday had a look at the GP2 statistics for example, and only two of the drivers to come up through GP2 have actually won races. Hamilton has won a bunch obviously, but the only other one is Kovy with ONE win. Yet most years the top 2 or 3 GP2 drivers have graduated to F1. So maybe there is a reason why all those old relics hold their fort - they still deliver. Of all the youths to come into F1 in the last few years - and as stated above they are many and high profile - the only ones who really set the world alight are Vettel and Hamilton. Some others like Rosberg and Kobayashi have managed to establish themselves but have yet to see any really stunning results.

jj - Unregistered

December 15, 2011 6:39 AM

Sucks for JA. He put in some solid performances over the year with a decent set of 7/8th place finishes, and really that, if Ferrari, RBR, and McL are the top 6, he is mixing it up with LR and Merc which is decent. I think any other team he joined would be a backwards move since all the teams left have yet to deliver a decent car. Maybe land a reserve drive role for Merc, or even McL (since PDLR left) with promised FP1 running would be good for him.

SB is done with F1 as far as I'm concerned. He never delivered and JA has basically had the upper hand on him.

MattShctick

December 15, 2011 10:42 AM

@sodesu
So its better for F1 to have Massa stumbling around in 7th place while his teammate is challenging for wins, rather than let some young hothead have his one shot at the target he's been dreaming of since he first sat in a pedal-car at the age of 3?
I mean no disrespect to your opinion, and I understand the importance of gathering reliable points for the constructors championship but its my opinion that many drivers are simply addicted to the lifestyle and drag their careers on much longer than they should.

GS - Unregistered

December 15, 2011 11:54 AM

@BLZBUB and ricciardo/vergne haven't got to f1 with red bull backing? Haven't seen anything in them to think they'll be any better than alg/buemi

blzbub

December 15, 2011 12:08 PM

GS Brundles point was that Buemi and Alg have probably been the most stable driver line up STR have had since there inception, but have they actualy done anything during there time there to make you stand up and take notice. Before he won for the team, Vettel threatened to finish on the podium and then finished fourth for the team formerly known as Minardi, SB and JA havent really managed that at any stage of there time there. If either really have what it takes, they will be back.

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