F1 » Barrichello set to frustrate Sutil, Senna?

Rubens Barrichello may have taken a significant step closer to retaining his Williams seat in 2012, according to reports.

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January 04, 2012 10:54 AM

greg. we all know the weld broke. but as taipan says, the question is when. the weld would have undergone ndt before use, and if there was a defect, it would have shown up. we also do not know the point at which the weld failed, it could have been just below the actual weld, or it could have been the precise joint. metallurgical tests could determine if the weld was broken by a twisting motion, or whether it failed under compressive shock. even in 1994, it should have been possible to ascertain the precise cause of failure. but the crux of the matter is that it is more than likely that the failure was not the CAUSE of the accident, but the RESULT of the accident. just as the barriers were not the CAUSE of the accident, but resulted in the suspension tearing off and causing the fatality. if the car had not hit the barriers, then there is no reason to suspect that ayrton would not be around today. at that particular race, a number of cars had serious offs at the same point, caused by

Steven - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 11:00 AM

Posted by Taipan (4 minutes ago)Steven, Why is it crass to comment on Senna's mind set? The guy was rattled by Schumacher's speed, he was obviously seriously shaken by Ratzenberger's death and Barrichello's crash, he wasn't happy with his car do you think given all that that he was in the best frame of mind? 'Cos I don't.

If he was not in the best frame of mind he was doing well not to show it !
Was he not "leading" at the time?javascript:insertTextCursor('comment', ':p')javascript:insertTextCursor('comment', ':p')

Greg - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 11:06 AM

Greg, If you can establish the "how" you can probably establish the "when" as I said before the difference in energy between turning into Taburello and hitting a wall at 150+mph is rather large!
Posted by Taipan (17 minutes ago)

Now we have that "probably" sorted out, what did cause the accident then ?

limited slip - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 11:08 AM

A lot of good that experience did in 2011. Poor guys having a mid life crisis and cant see its time to move on to other things. Sutil is the obvious guy for the seat but Frank never has been great a picking drivers.

Steven - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 11:12 AM

Steven good to see at last an expert poster on Crash. I and other posters have never claimed to be F1 experts, if we were we would not be posting an opinion here. Get real.
Posted by victor - Unregistered (12 minutes ago)

I am not an expert victor and what makes the comment was directed at you ? Are you one of the serial posters on Crash ? I only come on occasionally to read the stories and very rarely read the comments.


January 04, 2012 11:55 AM

steven. if you only read crash occassionally, it is not very clever to dismiss other contributors as keyboard experts. you have little knowledge of the experience of the posters whom you dismiss. may i suggest that you take time to read the history of some, and see that "occassionally", we know what we are talking about.


January 04, 2012 12:01 PM

geoff. that is a rather scurrilous statement that poor senna was only kept alive to ensure the race was completed. senna was alive after the accident and the doctors were doing everything in their power to save his life.
and as for spearing off the road, have you read the other comments? the car is believed to have bottomed badly on a know bump. this forced it into the air, and with front wheels off the ground, there was no steering. it is also possible that the landing broke a wishbone BEFORE the car hit the barriers, although this has not been proven or dismissed.
oddly enough, i have seen some posters blaming schumi for the accident, for pushing senna too hard!
it takes all sorts....!

Reg - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 12:08 PM

Senna's accident was caused by cold tyres not being up to temp along with the ride highth. If you recall it was the 2nd lap after Senna had pitted. His cold tyres and fuel load had reduced the ride highth by a few mm. Added to his speed the car was being pushed to the ground. By the end of the straight Senna's car would have been running on the titanium skids with the front tyres generating less than the required amount of traction/grip to turn into the corner the car went straight on. It wasn't long after the underside plank was introduced to ensure ride hight limits are not reduced below a certain level. The steering wheel didn't cause the accident. However, it may have caused his death. Although even without the steering column penetrating his helmet I doubt that Senna would have escaped fatal injuries.


January 04, 2012 12:27 PM

Reg, It wasn't the steering column that penetrated his helmet it was the steering arm or wishbone off the front right wheel.

Richard, believe it or not there's a video on youtube that claims (with some certainty) that Senna was SHOT comming into Taburello! as you said it takes all sorts!

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