F1 » Barrichello set to frustrate Sutil, Senna?

Rubens Barrichello may have taken a significant step closer to retaining his Williams seat in 2012, according to reports.

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Oli - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 12:33 PM

We now have 8 pages of debate on Senna's crash and of course none of us know for sure. Who knows even if Williams / Head / Newey ever knew for sure.

But personally, I do find the argument over Senna's mental state a bit of a non-starter. Yes, he was upset by a number of things that weekend. It is common knowledge from numerous interviews with those close to him that he rowed with his brother over the weekend about Adriane, he was troubled by the William's poor handling, by MS's form and by the crashes to Rubens / Ratzenberger.

So what? He was very disturbed by Martin Donnelly's crash at Jerez in 1990, visiting the scene, visably upset. Then he went out and smashed the lap-record.

This guy was the best in the world. He was more focused on racing and winning than anyone else in history. Are people seriously suggesting he was depressed and tried to kill himself or something?

Oh and for the record, Senna braked very very heavily before impact. That is a proven fact acknowledged in both

Oli - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 12:34 PM

Italian legal cases into the crash. Yet from the tv footage it seemed no attempt was made to turn the car and the last frame of the onboard footage shows Senna looking downwards. To me, that suggests a steeting failure. Again, just my opinion.


Geoff - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 12:55 PM

Sounds like he was as good as dead by the time they finally got him away from the circuit.
According to Sid Watkins he knew as soon as he saw Ayrton's pupils were dilated there was no hope. Also the situation wasn't helped by the fact he lost around 4.5L of blood from his temporal artery and his skull had multiple fractures at the back of the head.
Didn't Bernie have a falling out with Leonardo Senna because of all the confusion relating to whether Ayrton was clinically dead at the circuit or not ? That was supposed to be the reason he was not allowed to go to the funeral.


January 04, 2012 1:10 PM

geoff. i agree that having a suspension arm penetrate a skull, is 99.9% of the time, fatal. however the hypocratic oath requires doctors to do EVERYTHING to preserve life, even if there was the certainty that a person could be comatose for life. until a full assessment is made in a clinic, every effort must be made to keep a person alive. the doctors did this, but to say that he was kept alive so the race could be completed, is decidedly nasty and untrue.


January 04, 2012 1:12 PM
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In 4 months of following this site you appear the most sensible, modest,but knowledgeable ,and i like your caution in all what you say.

You confirmed to me ,anybody can profess ,confabulate, but nobody really knows what really happened.



January 04, 2012 2:35 PM

it is reported today, that williams is to auction the seat to the highest bidder. i reckon that adrian will have the best chance, as he can bring sponsorship, but barro may have difficulty, due to brazilian money being already tied up. but it could open the door to the likes of petrov or algy. lets hope that frank lands up withe the BEST driver


January 04, 2012 4:48 PM

A court verdict when read out and goes on records is something that cannot be altered in any way. The experts report to the court said, the steering column has been badly welded together about a third of the way down and couldn't stand the strain of the race, it seemed the job had been done in a hurry, someone had tried to smooth over the joint following the welding, I have never seen anything like it, I believe that the rod was faulty and cracked even during the warm up, moments before the crash only a tiny piece was left connected and therefore the car didn't respond in the bend “ Enerico Lorenzini, Professor of engineering at Bologna university”. In 2011 A Newey admitted that the steering column had fatigue cracks and would have failed at some point, there is no question that it's design was poor “A Newey”
Victor, so much for ex-ray of the welding done and job/welding standards!

Oli - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 5:47 PM


Thanks, it's nice to get good feedback.

A lot of people can get quite animated on here but I think there's nothing wrong with having conflicting opinions.

The only thing I can't stand is when people attempt to portray something as fact when it is not. For example, the early posts in this thread made numerous claims that x, y or z were the causes of the crash, when of course the fact is, and will remain no matter what we say on here, that officially the cause of Senna's accident remains unknown.

We may all have our views and we agree or disagree, as long as we only portray something as fact when it really is.

I think most people on here are quite reasonable with that. There will always be exceptions.


victor - Unregistered

January 04, 2012 6:07 PM

OLI no one suggested that Senna tried to kill himself. Hill believes the crash was a result of a driving error, there could have been a momentry loss of concentration by Senna. As you know Senna had many moments of physiological madness when he crashed into the rear of other cars without attempting to drive around it. Your opinion is only spection like the rest of us and I respect that.

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