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Gerard Lopez targets at least fourth for Lotus with the new E20

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sodesu

February 05, 2012 7:07 PM

Doesn't sound very ambitious but it really is a tough task - it means they have to beat either Merc, Ferrari, McLaren or Red Bull. Personally what I hope for the most is close racing, so it would be lovely if all of these big teams got it right with their cars.

richard

February 05, 2012 7:12 PM

sodesu. yes, lotus will have to beat one of those four. however, as rbr, mclaren and ferrari are unlikely to foul up and drop down the order. so that leaves merc, who have consistently underperformed. however i would seriously doubt that lotus would pip even the poor performing merc.

sodesu

February 05, 2012 8:06 PM

My point is that with new cars and new regs, the pecking order may well be a bit mixed up this year. Merc have some great people on board, as witnessed when they took the title as Brawn, and have strengthened the team even more since Merc came on board. Just because last year's car was a disappointment does not mean this year's car will be. What were people saying of the Brawn team's chances of winning before the start of testing? Before Red Bull started dominating, people were expecting that the WC would be decided between Ferrari and McLaren for all of eternity, but it didn't quite turn out that way. And as for this team, Bouiller is quite right when he says they have a history of innovation. They could well find themselves in the mix again.

richard

February 05, 2012 8:45 PM

sodesu. chalk and cheese! the "brawn" that won the wdc, was a HONDA, not a merc. and it was given the distinct advantage of the ddd. when merc took over, they inherited a car that no longer had an advantage, as others had caught up. since then merc have failed miserably. it wasnt just last years car that was a heap, the 2010 car was equally as bad.
and as for renault/lotus having a history of innovation. wll maybe they have, but has any of it been successful?

107SS2009

February 05, 2012 9:36 PM

Richard, I for one agree with most of what you said but, be assured that most of the innovations Renault came out with were ultra good, some not only have shown the way forward but have totally changed the way things were made/designed, to name a few, the introduction of turbo charging in F1, the exhaust blowing of the diffuser, the now universal “in F1” valves air springs.
Re Brawn now Mercedes, at least on paper they now have managed to get the strongest design team possible.

richard

February 05, 2012 9:51 PM

sinny. renault, as ENGINE manufacturers went the turbo way, but this is LOTUS we are now talking about. i didnt know that renault were the first to blow the diffuser? but their fee was a failure, and they have now admitted that their ride height system (now banned) was actually a failure and was not going to be used anyway!

sodesu

February 05, 2012 9:54 PM
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Rob & Richard, stranger things have happened in F1 is all I'm saying. Other innovations from the "modern" Renault/Lotus team camp include the mass damper, the fluid inerter, forward exhausts of course (innovative indeed but as it turned out not very successful) and the higher angle V10 (helped give the early 2000s Renaults great handling but was ultimately abandoned because of the top speed disadvantage). Not everything have worked of course but all the way from the Benetton years, this team has been known for a certain degree of engineering experimentalism.

Rob01 - Unregistered

February 05, 2012 10:02 PM

Yes they are innovative. To the point of yelling/crying the Renault was low on power so that they could improve the engine to work best with engine mapping or off throttle blowing. Truly of F1 calibre...

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