F1 » Hamilton: Red Bull looks fast

Lewis Hamilton completed two days of running at Jerez admitting that there was some work to do at McLaren - and already contemplating another scrap with old rivals.

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February 12, 2012 4:24 AM

EnRiCo, I think you'll find a very determined Mr Webber this year. This is most definitely his last year in a RedBull, possibly ever in F1. He will be going gang busters. He showed 2 years ago he's got plenty of talent. The problem is that Seb is just on another level, to everyone.
I would not say mark has inferior driving skills, actually quite the opposite. What he does lack is his starts. They cost him dearly last year. Fix that, and he's back in the mix.


February 12, 2012 5:23 AM

Victor, that's interesting, I didn't know that. I've always advocated the cars have to many drivers aides. I always thought launch control was banned, and have debated this with Richard whether they use a similar system with the clutch being electronically controlled.


February 12, 2012 6:01 AM

They was making use of the anti stall to modulate the clutch on start up, the way it was done, on the out lap the driver will simulate a race start, the anti stall software will memorise this and on the race start it will be repeated, in doing it this way they wouldn't be installing/fiddling with the FIA software.
Now the rules say that that the movement/travel of the of the clutch paddle will have to have a direct relation (proportion of travel) to the clutch travel (bite point) and most importantly same goes for the throttle pedal/butterflies movement/travel (same feelings as when you and me drives off) .
All this means that this year (as long as clever teams don't come up with another gimmick) the drivers will have to make a race start solely on their ability/feelings for engine revs and clutch bite point.


February 12, 2012 6:44 AM

It is different even for a driver with good feelings for throttle/clutch feeds to perfect a race start during an actual race start then from practicing a race start, when practicing a race start the driver will not be under the race start tension/excitement, it is the same as when you and me move off/drive off in a normal way and from moving off/drive off when under a lot of tension/excitement.


February 12, 2012 8:45 AM

Untipodeans, your reasoning is certainly extreme.
A bit more simplified, it was found by some that the anti stalls software could memorise and repeat an on track race start simulation.
We out to believe that the software would repeat exactly the race start simulated to it.


February 12, 2012 9:16 AM

dtn. what i found most odd, is the fact that ALL cars used similar start systems. all drivers had the same opportunities test/set the clutches before the start, but it was only webber that seemed to have a problem (at least, of the front runners). now, if seb, lulu, ferdi, button, massa etc could all master the system, why couldnt mark? after all, if you buy a new car, how long does it take you to feel the clutch action?

even if the clutch in f1 has a more "manual" feel to it this year, how do we know that the same problems wont arise?

@107SS2009 when it comes to f1 drivers im not left or centre but far right and my views can be extreme , here we have in the redbull 7 machine a marvel of modern technology and in the hands of a above average driver records are broken and rivals are destroyed, but the same car in the hands of a more experience driver from south of the equator we have the likes of crash kid hamilton and slow coach jenson scoring more victories than him, i can only imagine that ABC are slipping red bull a backhander and that is why he is still at red bull, all those Aussie dollars to keeping Mateschitz happy.

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