F1 » Hamilton: Red Bull looks fast


Lewis Hamilton completed two days of running at Jerez admitting that there was some work to do at McLaren - and already contemplating another scrap with old rivals.

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kieran - Unregistered

February 12, 2012 10:39 AM


Put lewis in the other red bull car next year and we will see how comes out on top it wil be lewis for sure vettel is overrated its the car that got him 2 world title

cockroach

February 12, 2012 10:54 AM

@Antipodean, ABC dont give anyone backhanders, they have no dosh, how good is it that Ricciardo is coming through, another dam Aussie to take Marks place when he winds it up, bet that's making you smile!

@ cockroach if Ricciardo drives the red bull 9 with passion and talent then i will salute him.

@ kieran

Its hard to pick who would be the best out of Lewis and seb as they have never been in cars of similar performance when racing each other, all we know when crash kid Hamilton has been in equal cars as reigning champions he has beaten them although i think Lewis did beat vettel in 2005 in machines that was similar in performance so you may have a point.

DontTalkNonsense

February 12, 2012 11:47 AM

@antipodeans. You are entitled to your opinion, just as I am. I think you are delusional to say MW brings ABC cash to RedBull. Firstly, RedBull don't need a pay driver. 2ndly, as Cockroach so rightly pointed out, ABC have no money.
3rdly, why was Mark so close to SV and FA only 2 seasons ago if he can't drive.
There is no denying he struggled with tyres last year. However, to say Seb's achievments are purely down to the car does a disservice to both Seb and Mark.
As much as Seb rubs me the wrong way, you have to admire him. We are seeing a legend of the sport in our lifetime. Bear in mind with such regulations and parity, to dominate the opposition as he does takes talent.

DontTalkNonsense

February 12, 2012 11:56 AM
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BTW, re Marks starts, I still believe it has a lot to do with software. You can't tell me he doesn't know how to feed a clutch. I can't recall which race, but on the in car diagnostics at the start, you clearly see Marks car nearly stall. Now in theory, his anti stall coupled with his practice start reprogramming the software shouldn't allow that to happen if his software is mapped correctly.

107SS2009

February 12, 2012 4:25 PM

DTN, only somebody who is not conversant with F1 car systems and also with the rules including the FIA ability to check the software for any illegal inputs will blame the software for MW'S bad race starts, I once posted (a long time ago) a FERRARI internal report/investigation (findings) of why MS when at his very best was so prone to bad starts including losing a championship by stalling on the race start in Japan.
The F1 car engine idles at 5/6k rpm and if it wasn't for the permitted anti stall software any of the drivers on the grid will have a 7 out of 10 chance of stalling the engine on moving off (no power at all to move the car at just above idle)

Angelina - Unregistered

February 12, 2012 8:53 PM

antipodeans
In 2005, Hami's car was in a much faster car than Seb Vettel. The diff was more than RBR's most dominant F1 car till date. Hami n his teammates finished 1st,2nd,3rd, etc. except DiResta who was beaten by Vettel in an inferior n slower car.

BTW Vettel was only 17 then n Hammi 20. Vettel was physically weaker as he was still a teenager n Vettel was still in school n therefore not even committed.

@Enrico
Vettel is 24 not 25.

@Sunny
Thanks for info. So maybe Webber might improve starts.

Angelina - Unregistered

February 12, 2012 8:59 PM

Sunny
I wonder how is Seb so perfect he always has good starts, never stalled his car.
New regs might give a disadvantage to Seb but now he is a 2XWDC so it shudn't b as bad as 2010.

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