F1 » Hamilton: Red Bull looks fast


Lewis Hamilton completed two days of running at Jerez admitting that there was some work to do at McLaren - and already contemplating another scrap with old rivals.

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EnRiCo47

February 12, 2012 10:26 PM
Last Edited 951 days ago

@@ Angelina
1987 -2012=25

not quite, i knew,but that s how i always called people s age.

If in 2005 one was young the other was young as well, and no one can tell who was more developed or not.

And if people rave on on how immature Lewis is now, when it suits people he was too mature for Seb in 2005,i mean, people just cant have it both way to prove their point all the time.

So to me Lewis beat Seb with similar cars

Now Seb beats Lewis and the rest on a better car, and maybe Seb now is the better driver, but nobody can be sure of that unless.

Seb/ RedBull V Hamilton/Redbull, plus Lewis would need time to adapt to the car.

This is only a view.(new Senna/Prost era!?)

DontTalkNonsense

February 12, 2012 11:34 PM
Last Edited 951 days ago

Sunny, point taken, just seems strange though. No conspiracy theories, I just don't think it all adds up. I am quite aware the FIA scrutineer the software. Doesn't mean all is well.BTW I'm not an F1 technician or engineer. Thats why I like this site. Possibly to learn new things. However I'm conversant enough in the workings of the cars to think it's an anomaly to happen so consistently.
Driver or car, who really knows, just hope it's rectified.

107SS2009

February 12, 2012 11:54 PM

Re the subject of MW'S bad starts, I feel the need to comment farther on some comment that have been posted and that includes some of mine. Richard suggested that everybody was using the same system, and I assume the same thing, some were blaming the software or the way the team configured it for MW'S bad race starts, this is totally wrong as the anti stall software could not be altered in any way without the FIA knowing it, it was used to aid the race start only because the teams found out that it could memorise and repeat a simulated race start (manipulating throttle and clutch), but the teams were safe as they could not be accused of altering or inputting any illegal functions into the software. To be continued.

107SS2009

February 13, 2012 12:10 AM

I have found the report/internal investigation by FERRARI of 1999 as to why MS was so prone to make a bad race start and stalling to the extent of even losing a championship because of stalling on the formation lap and so having to start at the back of the field in Japan, this report is most informative as to the systems used and their function (technically) on an F1 car, but it's too long to repeat on here, so I will only use some points from its findings as a possibility for MW'S bad starts, to be continued.

107SS2009

February 13, 2012 12:24 AM

The clutch, accelerator/throttle are all operated by hydraulics, approaching the start line on a warm up lap is a critical point for the hydraulic system as the driver is exercising all the hydraulic systems while accelerating hard, manoeuvring sharply to warm up tyres whilst travelling at low speeds, it is imperative for the hydraulic system to keep the engine at as high a rev as possible to build up the necessary pressure for correct operation of clutch and throttle on start up.

fish fingers - Unregistered

February 13, 2012 2:52 AM

Mclaren will be playing catch up so Hamilton needs to be smart and sensible and not get frustrated, even if it means Button outscoring him too, for the first few races. Get as many points as possible early on, push the team to improve the car and then go on the attack. It's going to be a great season, I can feel it.

DontTalkNonsense

February 13, 2012 5:06 AM

Sunny, do you believe the systems have stayed the same since 1999. In a sport where 12 month old technology becomes obsolete, I don't think much relevance could be put into a report pertaining to 13 year old technology.

DontTalkNonsense

February 13, 2012 5:17 AM

Further. Not being a smart alec, however, the warm up starts are done as a rolling start. Would be extremely hard to stall a car from a rolling start. Is this the problem? Does the software not take into account the vehicle is stationary at the actual start? Would find this hard to believe with the amount of detail the engineers go to. However, from what your saying Sunny, that would be the case. To replicate the actual start you would have the cars coming to a complete stop on the warm up lap. They do not do this.

chris - Unregistered

February 13, 2012 6:45 AM

hey you mook..look again at his comments again..rebull looks fast but do they go quick enough or faster than LH..this is a mind game for rebull to think..like he says rebull just a "drinks company"..but it all end up they beat him hahhahhahhahaa...what a duck!..hey LH ..want some tobasco sauce for your comments LH?

chris - Unregistered

February 13, 2012 6:45 AM

hey you mook..look again at his comments again..rebull looks fast but do they go quick enough or faster than LH..this is a mind game for rebull to think..like he says rebull just a "drinks company"..but it all end up they beat him hahhahhahhahaa...what a duck!..hey LH ..want some tobasco sauce for your comments LH?

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