F1 » Whitmarsh: It’s tight at the top

Martin Whitmarsh says pre-season testing suggests that things are too close to call at the head of the F1 pack

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February 25, 2012 8:59 PM

victor. i am not trying to liken vettel to fangio. the opposite in fact. i have said that they cannot be compared as they are dominating in different times. fangio probably couldnt cope with modern g forces, and seb probably couldnt cope with the terrible heavy steering of old, etc etc etc

and i wrote about sunnys comment about two strokes but somehow it is not appearing... i wouldnt call a rotary engine, a two stroke. it doesnt have a stroke on the basis it is ROTARY. but sunny is a mechanical genius, so maybe he will explain?


February 25, 2012 10:03 PM

Richard, I had the same problem with posts not appearing.
The rotary ( Felix ****el) is technically classified as a four stroke but is regarded by some sanctioning bodies as the equivalent of a two stroke, it is not easy to explain, the ****el makes one combustion stroke for each drive shaft rotation (crankshaft) and three power strokes per rotor rotation.
Like a two stroke it is considered one point five too two times the displacement of a four stroke IC piston engine.
It is mostly because of the ****el engine but triggered by Honda coming up with an oval piston engined bike that the FIA rules say a piston must be round.

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February 26, 2012 1:56 AM

So I was reading down the comments waiting for somebody to have a go at Hamilton, and of course TeaLeaf readily obliged. In this thread somebody had a go at Hamilton before anybody started defending him (because the article isn't about Hamilton after all). This is always the way it is on this website: People have a go at Hamilton whether it's relevant or not and then complain and call all the people who subsequently defend him "Fanboys". Complete nonsense.


February 26, 2012 4:07 AM

Sure it's tight at the top. The regs dictate it. Add the fact that FIA took away Red Bulls(vet)advantages and you can see why it might be tight. If it slips again then FIA will make another tight ajustment. Gotta keep the show for the fans. Good tight spec racing. Wonder if they purchased the Nascar rule book.


February 26, 2012 6:15 AM


Your last post is why comparisons are a waste of time. How would we know how great a driver Fangio would have been had he been brought up in the modern era, and how would we know how Vettel would have gone handling the cars of by-gone eras? It is just a waste of time to even speculate. One thing you are right about is they cannot be reasonably compared.


February 26, 2012 8:30 AM

The interpretations of what one says over here can sometimes be totally out of order, Richard being an experienced poster on here wasn't trying to compare Vettel and Fangio, in fact he wrote, I think this was all at an age when Fangio had not even sat in a car, yes you cannot compare Seb to any previous driver, as times are different, but he is setting new standards (15hours ago).
It was Victorbt33 that accused Richard of trying to convince others that Vittel is on the same outstanding level as Fangio (11hours ago)which doesn't make any sense when one reads what Richard wrote.

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