F1 » Whitmarsh: It’s tight at the top

Martin Whitmarsh says pre-season testing suggests that things are too close to call at the head of the F1 pack

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Firestorm - Unregistered

February 26, 2012 9:27 AM

You are misunderstood man. Vettel's first F1 race wasn't in 2008 but in 2007,when he replaced Kubica in 2007 US GP.He didn't finish 6th for BMW Sauber but 8th and this was far from one of the best results of this team in 2007 (Heidfeld finished 2nd in the previous race with BMW).Then in 2008(not in 2009) he raced a full season for STR(he joined STR at the last couple of races of 2007), an impressive drive fron Vettel in the second half of that season,culminating with his victory at Monza. Then in 2009 he joined RBR with a season with many up and downs but a good enough season.In 2010 and 2011 he won the WDC and the results speaks for themselves. I agree that he is really a good driver,amazingly good but are you sure that he is the best???


February 26, 2012 11:00 AM

firestorm. i admitted that i missed a year in his history. but that does not take from what he achieved. but you , like victor, miss the point. nowhere have i said that he is the greatest, as i believe that it is totally impossible to compare any two drivers from different eras. seb has broken records that will probably take years and years to beat. fangio broke records, many of which have now been passed by various other drivers. but he still retains some.
of the CURRENT drivers, seb is probably one of the best, if not the best. it really is up to some other driver to disprove that


February 26, 2012 11:39 AM


"fangio probably couldnt cope with modern g forces, and seb probably couldnt cope with the terrible heavy steering of old, etc etc etc"

How could you possibly make that observation? You have no idea what Fangio could have done in our era nor what Seb could have done in Fangio's era.

I got it alright.


February 26, 2012 11:46 AM


I suggest you read exactly what Richard is writing before you start to criticise me. Yes, he did say comparisons can't be made, but then he presumed to compare them by suggesting Fangio probably couldn't handle the G forces of today and Seb probably couldn't cope with the heavy steering of Fangio's day.


February 26, 2012 11:55 AM

googol. do aussies not have a sense of humour? that was a tongue in cheek remark to show how you cannot compare two drivers from different eras!

too much XXXX?

incidentally, fact... to win each of his wdcs, fangio only had to enter SEVEN races, seb has to enter NINETEEN


February 26, 2012 12:02 PM


I must be in a grumpy mood since I missed the humour in your post(I did the Rottnest channel swim yesterday and am still recovering). Anyway, Fangio probably would have preferred 19 races to show how dominant a driver he really was.

Go well Richard.

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