F1 » Mercedes: Not normal to jump from fourth to first


Norbert Haug: Our engine is said to be the best. Our KERS is said to be the best. Now we want to achieve that with our car as well...

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nick - Unregistered

February 29, 2012 4:33 PM

seems to me that theyve failed to remember that honda/brawngp came from seventh to first in 09......all this talk about were not ready yet is a smokescreen they believe and hope they will be challenging for victorys from the very begining

soessex - Unregistered

February 29, 2012 6:01 PM

Mercedes will never have the best KERS system until they employ the patented technology reflected below.

Battery type hybrids are poor at saving energy, and advancements in battery technology are most likely terminally limited. Flywheel technology is here now and power-flow is shock free and as smooth as though from an electric motor. See below. Here-to-fore the problem with flywheels has been complex and inefficient power management to and from the flywheel. This patent eliminates the above friction drive CVT with a IVT and completely solves this problem with maximum possible efficiency (85 -95%).
PRESS RELEASE
January 3, 2012
Reference: US Patent 7,931,107 B2
VEHICLE KINETIC ENERGY UTILIZATION TRANSMISSION SYSTEM. (KERS)

This recent patent enables the reduction of fuel consumption in motor vehicles by the storage of kinetic energy for reuse. This technology incorporates an infinitely variable transmission (IVT) in the form of an eddy current induction device (called a Modulator) c

GOGGS_ON_F1 - Unregistered

February 29, 2012 6:27 PM

I find it odd that they would say "Not normal to jump from fourth to first" considering Ross Brawn made such a similar leap not long ago with BrawnGP. I think it takes more than great pieces to build a winning car though. Winning formula is more than the sum of parts, there is an intangible element that not all teams possess

Rob01 - Unregistered

February 29, 2012 6:59 PM

I think this is the usual Merc bull. The regs are so tight that most of the top teams and for sure Merc realize there is only so much wiggle room. This isn't the old F1 with a much larger area to play in. Matter of fact most of the available speed is in Aero. If they can't get close with these regs at a much faster pace then maybe they need to look elsewhere for the help.

richard

February 29, 2012 7:16 PM
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soessex. what has that to do with f1? they dont use hybrid systems, they dont use cvt, they dont use fywheel kers, etc etc
it appears to be a specific patent in usa for hybrid saloon cars. but some sporting cars in europe, are already utilising electrical kers, and some hybrids also use such a system.

merc use a system similar to all others on the grid. output is limited, so no car will have a kers advantage over another.

Gary - Unregistered

February 29, 2012 7:52 PM

Jenson button- 2008 - Honda = 18th
Jenson button- 2009 - Brawn = 1st
Back of the grid to front of the grid in 1 season, so it can be done!!!!

ashv12 - Unregistered

February 29, 2012 9:36 PM

im surprised at this comment also and although you could argue the 09 Brawn was an exception as it was born with a very well optomised double diffuser which left every other team playing catch up (which Red Bull very nearly did) It makes me thnk back to the 1997 season, this was the second season of the Brawn, Byrne and M Schumacher dream team and they very very nearly won that year, and although they won 3 races in 1996 in two years they had turned Ferrari round from quite frankly a mess to arguably the best team on the grid to a serious championship contender, if anyone can recall that championship decider in Jerez 1997 schuey was in the pound seats and had the legs on villeneuve for the 1st part of the race and then in 3 laps after the 1st stops lost all his pace, and villeneuve caught up holed radiator maybe???

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