F1 » Webber happy to take positives from home GP

Mark Webber may have missed out on a top three finish at the Australian Grand Prix, but was still pleased to make up for a poor qualifying performance.

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Bobby.M - Unregistered

March 19, 2012 8:46 AM

Can someone please work out why Webber has such poor starts!!!!
There has to be some reason for it , even before the contact he was well behind.
He should not have been close to guys like Vergne and Hulkenburg , who started well behind him. Who cares about qualifying when you loose so many places. Webber is the dark horse this year as he is making positive noises about his feel /like for the car - if only he could make positions of the start not the opposite.

Also @victorBT33 -I'm pretty sure Coulthard still commentates for the races that the BBC covers. As SKY covers all the races Martin Brundle made the switch and I assume channel One in Australia also chose Sky for this reason.


March 19, 2012 9:20 AM

Bobby, while discussing the race results with a friend of mine “Australian” he said that Webber pressed the speed limiter or the anti stall by mistake at the start, that was the way they was doing it “race starts” last year before the FIA stopped it for this year.


March 19, 2012 9:26 AM

as Eddie Jordan said, Webber needs to go away and practices starts until he feels sick.
Eddie is right of course, Webber is a fast driver and can overtake like a daemon, but his starts are poor. If he is going to beat Vettel and have a stab at the championship this year, he must get his starts right.

Liam48 - Unregistered

March 19, 2012 10:09 AM

Looking back at Webber's drive it was a bloody good drive. Once he got clear air he was lapping 5 teths faster than anyone else in the track with a bit of damage on his car. He also set the 3rd fastest lap of the race a couple of hundredths behind Vettel and that was when he was behind Hamilton. If he had gotten past Hanilton I believe he could have challenge Vettel but that McLaren was too quick on the straight.

I think he was a bit faster than Vettel this weekend but just can't sort his starts out. He's tye dark horse if he can sort those starts out. If I was Vettel I would just keep an eye on him this season. David Coulthard said it best now that the blown diffuser is gone he likes the feel of the car better.


March 19, 2012 10:22 AM

webber was unable to get past lulu, even with the assistance of drs. but oddly, lulu, in a faster car was also unable to get past seb , even using his drs. some say that given a few more laps, webber would have been able to get past lulu, but somehow i doubt it. he never made any real attempt.
still, he got his best result ever in oz.

sunny, i dont know if using anti stall would bog down a car at start, as it actually keeps engine revs UP. but there is a new rule, where you cannot change out of first for the first 100m or so, could this have caught him out?


March 19, 2012 11:44 AM

Richard, yes the anti stall keeps engine revs up automatically to prevent stalling, the idle speed of these engines is around 5k RPM, at which RPM the engine torque is not sufficient to move the weight of the car forward in first gear “the engine will stall”. The FIA got to know that some teams were using the anti stall map to make a perfect race start, such race starts would be near impossible to be made by a human being in the heat of a race start. The map was used to manipulate both the clutch “feed” and the throttle butterflies feed, all this would happen while the driver floors throttle pedal and drops the clutch paddle. Without the use of such maps Flooring the throttle pedal and dropping the clutch paddle the car will not move more than one metre forward, it will just burns off the tyres. Continued.


March 19, 2012 12:01 PM

Continued, new for 2012 rules changes to controls for the throttle, clutch, anti stall and gear shift.
“Drivers torque demand via the accelerator pedal” The movement of the throttle pedal and the throttle butterflies on the engine will have to be proportionate to each other.
The movement of the clutch paddle and the clutch itself will have to be proportionate to each other.
All driver's buttons and controls to be via dedicated input to the ECU, the driver's use of these controls must be logged for FIA inspection.
Both at pit stops and at the start of the race first gear must be used “engaged” up to 100KM/H.DITANCE IS NOT MENTIONED.

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